Cruise Control Problem?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by John Gregory, Jul 23, 2005.

  1. John Gregory

    John Gregory Guest

    I occasionally get the impression the cruise control on my 2000 Chrysler
    Concorde LXi isn't operating properly. When set at about 60 mph, it
    occasionally feels like it down shifts. The RPMs rise to about 2900 to 3000
    and I feel a shift in the transmission. The hill involved is from a series
    of "washboard type" that rise rather sharply then decline. The distance of
    the hills on any given rise or decline is perhaps a half mile at most;
    usually one quarter of a mile or less. It doesn't occur often. When it does
    though, I've begun simply shutting off the cruise control. On mostly flat
    stretches, everything is fine. Is this normal?
     
    John Gregory, Jul 23, 2005
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  2. John Gregory

    maxpower Guest

    When climbing a grade the speed control tries to maintain the set speed by
    increasing the throttle opening, while inability/delaying downshifts..

    If opening the throttle alone cannot maintain the set speed and the vehicle
    speed drops more than three mph below the set speed, the transmission will
    downshift to third gear. If the vehicle continues to lose speed, by more
    than 6 mph, the transmission will downshift again maintain the set speed.
    After the vehicle encounters a less-steep grade, or has crested the grade
    (reduced the load on the powertrain) and can maintain the set speed at a
    reduced throttle position, the transmission will upshift, as appropriate,
    until the set speed can be maintained in Overdrive.



    Glenn Beasley

    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Jul 23, 2005
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  3. John Gregory

    John Gregory Guest

    I've never noticed anything "out of the ordinary" while going up hills. This
    occurs only going downhill. Isn't the brake system supposed to come into
    play when doing downhill to reduce the speed. If set at 60 and I start
    picking up speed, I occasionally feel it shift and the RPMs run up to around
    3000. That happens rarely... but it does happen. I thought perhaps the
    mechanism that's supposed to kick in the brakes wasn't doin' its job and the
    transmission took over.
     
    John Gregory, Jul 23, 2005
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  4. John Gregory

    maxpower Guest


    Transmission control software includes an automatic speed control overspeed
    reduction feature. This maintains vehicle speed at the selected set point
    when descending a grade.
    The Transmission Control Module first senses that the speed control is set.
    If the set speed is exceeded by more than 4 mph and the throttle is closed,
    the TCM causes the transaxle to downshift to 3 rd gear. After downshifting,
    the automatic speed control resumes normal operation. To ensure that an
    upshiftis appropriate after the set speed is reached, the TCM waits until
    the speed control system opens the throttle at least 6 degrees before
    upshifting to overdrive again.

    If the driver applies the brakes, canceling automatic speed control
    operation with the transaxle still in 3rdgear, the TCM maintains this gear
    until the driver opens the throttle at least 6 degrees to avoid an
    inappropriate upshift. The upshift is also delayed for 2.5 seconds after
    reaching the 6 degrees throttle opening in anticipation that the driver
    might open the throttle enough to require 3rd gear. This will avoid
    unnecessary and disturbing transmission cycling. If the automatic speed
    control Resum feature is used after braking, the upshift is delayed until
    the set speed is achieved to reduce cycling and provide better response
     
    maxpower, Jul 23, 2005
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  5. John Gregory

    John Gregory Guest

    Thanks. From your description, it appears everything is operating as
    designed. Maybe I've simply not noticed the downshift in the past. I
    appreciate the explanation.
     
    John Gregory, Jul 24, 2005
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