Cruise control in 98 Stratus

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Patok, May 30, 2008.

  1. Patok

    Patok Guest

    Since the I've had the car ('98 Stratus, 180,000+ miles now) the
    cruise control has intermittent failures. The ways it happens are:

    1. After start driving, turn the CC on, the CC light comes on. Pressing
    the set speed button makes the light come off. Can't be turned on again
    unless I shut and restart the engine. Usually works fine after the restart.
    2. Having driven a long time, with CC working fine, come into city
    traffic, have to brake/accelerate. After passing through the city
    traffic, want to resume cruise, pressing the resume button shuts the CC
    off, as above. Again restarting engine makes it work fine.

    These effects are more pronounced in warm weather; in the winter it
    happens very rarely; in the summer - almost daily. Something else -
    after each "major surgery" on the engine, the effect disappears
    completely for 3-4 months. After changing the head gasket, the rear main
    seal and the cat converter (each on a separate occasion) the CC worked
    fine for the next 3-4 months. Each time I was hoping that it was fixed
    permanently, but it came back.

    Now the warm weather has returned, and it's happening again. I would
    like to figure out why it's happening, if not fix it, before the car
    eventually departs (it won't last forever, unfortunately). The several
    attempts to diagnose it at dealerships have failed - it's working fine
    when there, and the scanning tool shows nothing (admittedly that's what
    they tell me - I have no idea what tool they use and which parameters
    they read).

    Can somebody (maxpower?) suggest a sure way to diagnose the reason? Do I
    need to go to a garage right after it shuts off, with the engine left
    running? (Usually that's impossible, because it happens on the road far
    from known dealerships/garages and I can't drive the rest of the way w/o
    CC). Do I have to tell them what specific scan tool to use or which
    specific parameters to look at? Or maybe something else to look for?
     
    Patok, May 30, 2008
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  2. Patok

    Patok Guest

    Glenn, did you see/read this? Do you have any suggestions how to diagnose?
     
    Patok, Jun 4, 2008
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  3. Patok

    maxpower Guest


    The engine controller would have to be scanned for fault codes to start the
    diagnostic procedure. The DRB has the capability to see what the last cut
    off was on the cruise as it was working. In other words.... if you are using
    the cruise and it just shuts off for no reason at all......you would have to
    have this scan tool connected to see what deactivated it. It would show,
    brake switch, vacuum, speed and so on. The most common problem would be the
    brake switch. Sorry not much help here

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Jun 4, 2008
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  4. Patok

    Steve Guest


    Have you pulled the diagnostic codes? My SWAG would be that you see
    something pertaining to the output speed sensor. There should be at
    least SOME clue in the stored codes.

    You can't drive without cruise? Sheesh, only one of my cars even HAS
    cruise control (the wife's) and I rarely use it :p
     
    Steve, Jun 4, 2008
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  5. Patok

    maxpower Guest

    Second reply

    The engine controller would have to be scanned for fault codes to start the
    diagnostic procedure. The DRB has the capability to see what the last cut
    off was on the cruise as it was working. In other words.... if you are using
    the cruise and it just shuts off for no reason at all......you would have to
    have this scan tool connected to see what deactivated it. It would show,
    brake switch, vacuum, speed and so on. The most common problem would be the
    brake switch. Sorry not much help here

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Jun 5, 2008
    #5
  6. Patok

    Gyzmologist Guest

    I must agree with Glenn in that it is likely the brake light switch. It
    is a mechanical switch and the cruise control brake signal circuit does
    not draw enough current to keep the contacts clean. My cruise control
    would disengage for no reason ('98 Stratus ES). Took it to the dealer
    and they replaced the servo but that did not fix it. I replaced the
    brake light switch with a Dodge part and it has worked perfectly since
    (6 years now). If it were vacuum related I would think it would not be
    able to maintain speed at times. The cruise will disengage if the actual
    speed drops below the set speed by 10 MPH or so.
     
    Gyzmologist, Jun 7, 2008
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