cold air

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by sachin, Feb 5, 2004.

  1. sachin

    sachin Guest

    Daniel Stern said:
    So did most others who replied to my thread. Some spawned other discussions,
    which I didn't really care about so long as the main question was answered
    by guys like you, Geoff (interesting point about engine block temp),
    fbloogyudsr (fuel doesn't atomize in cold), Brandon, etc.

    I just ignored the other responses about road conditions, mileage, and
    someone calling me a troll. I guess it takes more self-control for some
    people to harness the power of usenet effectively :)
     
    sachin, Feb 11, 2004
    #41
  2. sachin

    sachin Guest

    One rule of thumb, which may or may not be accurate, holds that a 20F

    So if this is a linear relationship, very close to zero kelvin the power
    could easily double.... (obviously assuming the 'air' is still a gas)

    I suppose a similar relationship applies to altitude........along with a
    plethora of other factors like drag, etc ;-)

    Speaking of humidity, I never knew that water displaced air. Aren't there
    the same number of O2 molecules in 1cc of dry air as there are in 1cc of
    saturated air?
     
    sachin, Feb 11, 2004
    #42
  3. The Society of Automotive Engineers has a test standard
    (J1349) that applies to net power testing of automotive
    engines. The standard includes a formula for an atmospheric
    correction factor for WOT power in spark-ignition engines.

    Roughly speaking(*), the calculated net power ratio (between
    power outputs at two temperatures) is inversely proportional
    to the square root of the absolute temperature ratio, i.e.,
    colder air produces more power.

    To use one of your examples for numbers: power at -15F vs
    90F. First, you have to convert the temperatures to an
    absolute scale e.g., using the Rankine scale, -15F is about
    445R, and 90F is about 550R. The temperature ratio between
    the two is then 550/445, or about 1.24. The square root of
    the temperature ratio is about 1.11. So, according to the
    SAE correction factor, engine power should increase by about
    11% when the air temperature falls from 90F to -15F.

    (*) The correction formula assumes that *indicated power*
    (i.e., total engine power, including internal friction
    power) varies with the reciprocal of the square root of the
    temperature ratio. It also assumes that friction power does
    not change with temperature, so the change in *net power* is
    actually greater than is suggested by the temperature ratio.
    The effect is fairly small but in your examples, the net
    power ratio would increase by 2%-3% using the SAE formula.
    IOW, the SAE formula shows a 13% increase in power just by
    changing air temperature from 90F to -15F, assuming a
    mechanical efficiency of 85% (i.e., a friction loss of 15%).
     
    Chuck Tomlinson, Feb 12, 2004
    #43
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