CNG conversion

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Not Me, Apr 21, 2005.

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    Not Me Guest

    Played with the numbers and I can save big $$ using CNG.

    I have a 04 Caravan (3.8L) and need a source of hardware to convert to duel
    fuel (gas/CNG and perhaps optioinal LP).

    Any input would be appreciated.
     
    Not Me, Apr 21, 2005
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    Peter Guest

    Played with the numbers and I can save big $$ using CNG.
    Why would you want CNG instead of LPG? CNG has very limited range, plus
    high-pressure tanks are expensive.

    04 model vehicle would almost certainly have plastic intake manifold. You'd
    need gas injectors fitted, total cost around 2000$ (I assume V6 engine?) for
    LPG, more for CNG.

    Check out http://www.lpgkits.co.uk/

    Also, uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg newsgroup is helpful

    Peter
     
    Peter, Apr 22, 2005
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    Not Me Guest

    | > Played with the numbers and I can save big $$ using CNG.
    | >
    | > I have a 04 Caravan (3.8L) and need a source of hardware to convert
    | > to duel fuel (gas/CNG and perhaps optioinal LP).
    | >
    | > Any input would be appreciated.
    |
    | Why would you want CNG instead of LPG? CNG has very limited range, plus
    | high-pressure tanks are expensive.

    LPG is = or > per mile than gas, also I have a locked in low rate of NG for
    the next 5+ years.

    | 04 model vehicle would almost certainly have plastic intake manifold.
    You'd
    | need gas injectors fitted, total cost around 2000$ (I assume V6 engine?)
    for
    | LPG, more for CNG.
    |
    | Check out http://www.lpgkits.co.uk/
    |
    | Also, uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg newsgroup is helpful
    |
    |
    Thanks.
     
    Not Me, Apr 23, 2005
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    Peter Guest

    I have a 04 Caravan (3.8L) and need a source of hardware to convert
    Here in Old World LPG is about 2x cheaper than regular gas... or rather gas
    is 2x more expensive ;)

    You are bound to have a lousy range on CNG, probably 100-150miles. How
    you're gonna fill 'er up? A compressor is needed - are you going to buy one
    (expensive)?

    Here's more:

    http://www.lpg-kits.com/index.htm

    Peter
     
    Peter, Apr 24, 2005
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    Not Me Guest

    "Peter"
    | > LPG is = or > per mile than gas, also I have a locked in low rate of
    | > NG for the next 5+ years.
    |
    | Here in Old World LPG is about 2x cheaper than regular gas... or rather
    gas
    | is 2x more expensive ;)

    LPG is higher here than regular gas.

    | You are bound to have a lousy range on CNG, probably 100-150miles. How
    | you're gonna fill 'er up? A compressor is needed - are you going to buy
    one
    | (expensive)?

    did the deed years back (before all the regulations) compressior is not that
    expensive (pay out is less only a few months)

    Now need hardware that will comply with regulations.

    | Here's more:
    |
    | http://www.lpg-kits.com/index.htm

    Thanks
     
    Not Me, Apr 25, 2005
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    Peter Guest

    You are bound to have a lousy range on CNG, probably 100-150miles.
    Interesting. Where exactly did you obtain the compressor? Was it slow- or
    fast-fillup one? I've been looking into CNG myself, but lack of decent
    filling stations network is holding me back. My house uses NG for heating so
    I could hook up the compressor and fill up the car overnight, but such
    compressors usually run into 2k$ or so.

    Peter
     
    Peter, Apr 25, 2005
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    Not Me Guest

    | >> You are bound to have a lousy range on CNG, probably 100-150miles.
    | >> How you're gonna fill 'er up? A compressor is needed - are you going
    | >> to buy one (expensive)?
    | >
    | > did the deed years back (before all the regulations) compressior is
    | > not that expensive (pay out is less only a few months)
    | >
    | > Now need hardware that will comply with regulations.
    |
    | Interesting. Where exactly did you obtain the compressor? Was it slow- or
    | fast-fillup one? I've been looking into CNG myself, but lack of decent
    | filling stations network is holding me back. My house uses NG for heating
    so
    | I could hook up the compressor and fill up the car overnight, but such
    | compressors usually run into 2k$ or so.

    We used a slow speed compressor and let it run almost constantly to fill a
    bank of high pressure tanks. When we needed to fill a vhicle we used the
    CNG in the tanks to quick fule the company vans. Most of the time we just
    did the deed but is we needed that maximum fill we would fill from one then
    another tank is sequence so that the last fill was a top off from a full
    storage tank.

    In parts of Texas there are fill stations often enough that you can drive
    across the state (1000 miles+) using only CNG but you still have to plan the
    trip.
     
    Not Me, Apr 25, 2005
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