Chrysler's Marketing Mistakes (Forbes)

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by MoPar Man, Aug 8, 2003.

  1. MoPar Man

    MoPar Man Guest

    Summary:

    A) Killing Plymouth was a mistake. PT Cruiser originally to be a
    Plymouth, with more variants than is now currently available.
    Chrysler sold more minivans when it had Plymough than it does now
    under Chrysler AND Dodge. Chrysler Voyager to be axed.

    B) Chrysler risks damaging the Jeep image by introducing lower-priced
    (lower-capability) versions to compete with other "soft" SUV's rather
    than badge them under Chrysler or Dodge. Author claims this was done
    in the past by badging some cars under Chrysler rather than Plymouth,
    ultimately damaging the Chrysler brand (does not mention specific
    vehicle).

    C) Badge-gap. "I've driven the new Pacifica and I like it. Those LX
    sedans may be excellent, too. But it is still a marketing risk to push
    Chrysler upscale without expanding the lower-priced lines."

    D) Dealer strategy. "Merging together dealer groups
    (Chrysler-Jeep-Dodge) is a defeatist strategy. Winners don't do it.
    And it leads to more product eliminations. In a few years from now
    Chrysler executives will wonder why dealers need to have similar
    products like the Dodge Stratus and Chrysler Sebring sitting side by
    side in the same showroom."

    E) Continued trend of replacing American executives with German ones.
    "Chrysler just changed its sales/marketing boss; it replaced an
    American with another German executive. So far there's no sign that
    the company will reverse any of these destructive strategies. I think
    that is a mistake."

    And now for the article...

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    Backseat Driver
    Chrysler's Marketing Mistakes
    Jerry Flint, 08.05.03, 8:00 AM ET
    http://www.forbes.com/2003/08/05/cz_jf_0805flint.html

    NEW YORK - Let's be honest, it isn't easy being a Detroit executive in
    the new millennium. The Japanese are coming on strong in light trucks,
    the Koreans are gaining market share, and it's a buyer's market
    dominated by profit-sapping givebacks. Compounding these problems is
    Detroit's short-sighted emphasis on cutting costs at the expense of
    building better cars and trucks.

    All these problems are bad enough, but I think that beleaguered
    Chrysler, the American division of DaimlerChrysler, has another
    serious shortcoming: How it markets and sells its vehicles. I'm not
    talking about whether it was a good idea to hire Grammy winner Celine
    Dion to sing up Chrysler. To me, Chrysler's marketing mistakes are far
    more serious.

    The big issues:

    1. Killing Plymouth.
    2. Plans for a "sissy Jeep."
    3. Moving Chrysler upscale.
    4. Combining Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep showrooms.

    Let's start with the Plymouth division, which was shut down by the
    German managers, although there were plenty of Americans who wanted it
    closed, too.

    I can think of only one good reason to kill a division: when there
    isn't enough money or manpower to provide a product line. That wasn't
    the case here. The PT Cruiser, which was to be a Plymouth, but ended
    up as a Chrysler, would have been the basis for a whole new line of
    Plymouth vehicles, including a convertible, a panel truck and a sexy
    two-door.

    When Chrysler decided to kill Plymouth after the 2001 model year, it
    re-badged the Plymouth Voyager minivan as the Chrysler Voyager. In
    1999, Plymouth sold 137,000 Voyagers. Through the first six months of
    2003 only 10,260 Chrysler Voyagers were sold, and it appears that this
    nameplate will soon be killed. Most of these lost sales were not
    captured by the upscale Chrysler Town and Country minivan: Its sales
    of 68,000 are down a notch from the 70,000 sold in the first half of
    last year. These lost sales weren't made up by the Dodge-version
    minivans, either.

    Chrysler is also in a quandary over what to do with its legendary Jeep
    brand. The previous management, the Americans, made the brand Jeep
    mean something. In order to wear the Jeep badge, every model had to
    make it across the Rubicon Trail, a 22-mile raw northern California
    trail. Only vehicles that could survive the toughest conditions--over
    boulders, across water and through sand--were called Jeeps.

    With all the new sport utility vehicles on the market, it is no
    surprise that Jeep sales have softened since 1999, when the division
    sold 555,000 trucks. Still, Jeep sold 460,000 units last year, which
    is more than double the SUV sales of Toyota's Lexus division, BMW or
    DaimlerChrysler's own Mercedes. But Chrysler people figure they could
    sell lots more if they could make a lower-priced Jeep model--even if
    it might not crawl the Rubicon. (I call it the "sissy Jeep.") And it
    looks as if they will do just that.

    I don't think that Chrysler should walk away from the growing market
    for "softer" crossover SUVs. But such SUVS could carry the Dodge or
    Chrysler name, or they could revise the old Eagle brand once used by
    the firm's dealers for such lesser vehicles. Otherwise, I fear that
    Chrysler runs the risk of eventually destroying the integrity of Jeep.

    Over the years Chrysler did just such damage to its namesake brand. I
    can remember when Chryslers were upscale, well-engineered and powerful
    cars. Then management decided to build cheaper Chryslers. They took
    what should have been Plymouths and called them Chryslers. Selling
    such wimpy cars--some with anemic four-cylinder engines--pushed up
    Chrysler sales for a couple of years, but damaged Chrysler's
    reputation and ultimately ruined Plymouth.

    Now Chrysler wants to move its brand upscale. This is a legitimate
    goal, but one that requires great product and skillful marketing. The
    drive has already started with the new Chrysler Pacifica and
    Crossfire. Next spring we'll see the new LX rear-wheel-drive cars.
    These vehicles will sticker for $35,000 to $40,000 or more.

    The danger for Chrysler is that this strategy means finding new
    customers. What about the old customers who can't afford, or are
    unwilling to splurge on, these expensive new models? They may be lost.
    Remember, Chrysler dealers no longer have the more affordable Plymouth
    line to offer these people.

    I've driven the new Pacifica and I like it. Those LX sedans may be
    excellent, too. But it is still a marketing risk to push Chrysler
    upscale without expanding the lower-priced lines.

    Chrysler's dealer strategy also doesn't make sense to me. When the
    company first merged with American Motors in the 1987, it had three
    separate dealer groups: Chrysler-Plymouth, Jeep-Eagle and Dodge. Later
    it merged its Chrysler and Jeep dealers, then it killed Plymouth, and
    now its goal is to have 500 combined Chrysler-Jeep-Dodge showrooms in
    metropolitan and suburban areas. More than 100 have been created
    already.

    Merging together dealer groups is a defeatist strategy. Winners don't
    do it. And it leads to more product eliminations. In a few years from
    now Chrysler executives will wonder why dealers need to have similar
    products like the Dodge Stratus and Chrysler Sebring sitting side by
    side in the same showroom.

    Chrysler just changed its sales/marketing boss; it replaced an
    American with another German executive. So far there's no sign that
    the company will reverse any of these destructive strategies. I think
    that is a mistake.
     
    MoPar Man, Aug 8, 2003
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    Loose Cannon Guest

    The Germans will kill Chrysler and I think Lee is too old
    now to rescue it again. If I recall correctly, Lee did
    offer to come in and help Chrysler after the Germans bought
    it and they turned him down.
    Even tho I have preferred Chrysler cars over Ford and GM, I
    may not buy another now that I see what the new owners are
    doing.
     
    Loose Cannon, Aug 8, 2003
    #2
  3. The article shows up some very specific type of American thinking towards
    motorcars. Or maybe it's just the thinking of 'enthusiasts' of the sort who
    participate in these newsgroups.

    1) "Anaemic 4-cylinder engines". Why think like that? I suggest that
    most people in the world drive cars with such engines. Why this obsession
    with winning the Traffic Lights Grand Prix? Etc etc.

    2) Badge engineering. What is the point of a Dodge Stratus and Chrysler
    Sebring if they are so similar? VW Group is now a master of 'almost' badge
    engineering with its many brands, but the cars still look different and have
    different prices. That, however, stems from the different cost bases of
    where they are produced - Skoda in the Czech Republic and SEAT in Spain. It
    will be interesting to see what happens when the wages in the Czech Republic
    are the same as in Germany.

    3) Blaming foreigners (in the Chrysler case "the Germans") for the ills
    of the US automobile industry. If these cars were so wonderful and such
    great value for money, why don't they dominate the world like the Toyota
    Corolla does? Why don't the US-based manufacturers manufacture Sebrings and
    Lincolns etc in the factories in Belgium and Germany and Spain and China
    and....? Why are the ancient taxis in the Middle East and Africa
    Mercedes-Benzes and not Fords or General Motors vehicles?

    Why does almost nobody outside the US think that a Cadillac is the non plus
    ultra of luxury? Why do they go for Lexus, MB, BMW etc?

    I drove the Sebring Cabrio last April for a few days (posted that before)
    and liked it, and it's a great lower-price competitor for the Merc CLK
    Cabrio, but how good is it to own for several years? I had the 2.7 l engine
    which, if I am not mistaken, has been criticised in this newsgroup on
    grounds of reliablility.


    The point is that people like the writer of the article seem to mourn the
    passing of some 'golden' age and are railing against the present. But the
    present is only brought about because of big changes. The US car market is
    much more part of the world, not least because so many non-US-origin
    companies are manufacturing in the US. So the present is a reaction to
    global events, with car manufacturers trying to survive, especially in an
    environment where too many new cars are chasing too few customers.
    Introducing a 'sissy' Jeep is one of those strategies. Maybe it should have
    been done years ago? Range Rover and Land Rover have existed together for
    years...

    Rant, rant, rant...

    DAS
     
    Dori Schmetterling, Aug 8, 2003
    #3
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    Daniel Guest

    The "Krauts" took over Chrysler the same year I retired - 1998. And ever
    since, things have SOURED at DaimlerChrysler. Of course the good old
    American Chrysler executives at the time sold the whole package to the
    Germans. And don't even about how I feel about the that "traitor" Bob Eaton.

    Dan
     
    Daniel, Aug 8, 2003
    #4
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    Lloyd Parker Guest

    How do you mean? Damiler is committed to keeping Chrysler and keeping it
    going. They're pumping in billions.

    Landau vinyl roofs were passe.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Aug 8, 2003
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  6. MoPar Man

    Lloyd Parker Guest

    How so? We've got the Crossfire and Pacifica. We've got rwd Hemi V8 sedans
    coming.

    And financially, Chrysler went through bad times about every decade anyway.

    Would you have preferred Chrysler go out of business? Because all the parties
    involved, including Lutz, say that was a real possibility.
     
    Lloyd Parker, Aug 8, 2003
    #6
  7. It's real easy to throw stones at a marketing strategy employed by a company
    that is
    losing money. But the author is ignoring that just about all automakers
    today are losing money.
    Therefore according to the author's logic, just about all automakers's
    marketing strategies are wrong.

    Well if that is the case who is buying the cars?

    The truth is that ALL automakers are suffering sales volume drops, across
    the board, except for tiny,
    niche automakers. And those don't make up anywhere near what the lost sales
    of everyone else is.

    Globally, all economies are down. More people are deferring purchasing
    decisions, and fewer
    people are buying cars. There's many many people who 5-10 years ago owned 2
    cars in the
    family, then one member lost their job and ended up having to get another
    job that paid less.
    The family then decided to drop one car, or decided to drive fewer miles.
    Thus the cars last longer.

    There are really only 2 possible ways to jazz up the auto industry. The
    first is to fix the global
    economy, get more money into the hands of the workers, get more of them
    working and off
    unemployment, get the ones that aren't on unemployment some fat raises so
    they have extra
    money to go throw at toys like new cars. The second is to make the cost of
    driving the car a
    lot cheaper, by dropping fuel prices. Neither is likely to happen anytime
    soon.

    Until then, sales are going to remain soft. Automakers are going to have to
    adapt and figure out
    how to be profitable while selling fewer cars. This isn't easy when your in
    an industry where
    the more cars you manufacture, the cheaper the per-unit cost is to make.
    You start to make
    fewer cars, your unit price goes up and you either lose more money faster,
    or you raise your
    prices and even fewer people buy your cars and you still lose money faster.
    Either way
    creates a vicious downward spiral. But on the other side of the coin, the
    more cars you make
    the greater the oversupply, thus the less people are willing to pay for
    them, thus you have to drop
    your prices, and if your prices drop faster than the cost to manufacture the
    car is, you lose
    money even faster and it still creates a downward spiral.

    It is pretty obvious how the market will self-correct if sales don't get
    pumped up across the
    board. Simply put, all automakers would continue to oversupply the market,
    the prices would
    get more depressed, all automakers would lose money faster, and whichever
    automaker runs
    out of money first goes bankrupt and exits the market. The remainder of the
    automakers will
    then be able to sell more cars and reverse their downward spirals, and the
    market will
    stabilize.

    What your looking at with a lot of these articles is people who are just
    pounding out
    FUD because they are hoping they can get one of the automakers in trouble a
    lot faster
    than the others, that way that one will go bankrupt faster, and the rest of
    them will be
    better off.

    And the rest of these columnists are making money writing columns like this
    because
    that is all they know how to do. If this bozo in Forbes actually knew how
    to run a
    company and make money at it, he would be too busy doing that to spend time
    writing articles that the magazine gives him peanuts for.

    This is no different than the JD Powers and Comsumer Reports columnists.
    Those
    people don't know anything about how to design cars if they did they would
    be making
    the big bucks actually engineering products. So instead they spend their
    time telling
    other people how to do their jobs. Losers is what they are, mostly.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 9, 2003
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