Chrysler to cut 13,000 jobs;

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by who, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. who

    who Guest

    Producing cars the consumer wants might be an idea for them.
    Neither I or my wife see anything Chrysler to upgrade our Chrysler cars
    to. We've each been buying Chrysler since 1979, but couldn't continue
    with todays Chrysler's products.
    DC seems to have taken Chrysler astray, have we a culture problem here?
    It looks like DC may have sacrificed Chrysler for Mercedes gain. >:)
    Tip to Chrysler: We aren't looking for larger cars or more radical
    styling, just more practical.
    Something Chrysler has departed from over the last several years.
    (Ask us, we know what we want!)
     
    who, Feb 14, 2007
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  2. Since 1979? Into practicality? Sounds like you want a K car.
     
    NowItsWhatever, Feb 14, 2007
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    Brad Guest

    You hit the nail on the head. Toyota, Honda, and the others have a
    very clear understanding of what the customer wants and what the
    customer will buy. Then, they actually build it. The Big 3, on the
    other hand, tend to build cars they THINK the customer wants then goes
    to all lenghs to convince them. Much like pushing a rope.
     
    Brad, Feb 15, 2007
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  4. who

    who Guest

    Never.
    I rented one once and couldn't stand it's very poor handling.
    It was so poor I almost wet off a corner that my Horizon TC3 hardly
    noticed.
    I found out they set up the K car to appeal to the typical American
    driver so not surprising I didn't like it.
    I'm from the European car handling school!
     
    who, Feb 15, 2007
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  5. who

    who Guest

    Well someone who thinks like me. <:)
    Yes I know there are lots of us, in fact an increasing number of NA
    drivers.
    I feel what happened to Chrysler is Daimler took Chrysler's designs in a
    direction they thought would be great, but they didn't understand our
    evolving NA market. They had a viewpoint from the past.

    Kind of clear now why many of Chryslers top management quit a few years
    after the takeover. They obviously couldn't stand the direction DC was
    taking Chrysler. They knew better, EH!

    I recently read how Toyota keeps very close watch on how their cars are
    selling in each market area and adjust shipments and production if so
    needed. Chrysler tends to build away then dump cars on their dealers.

    Just so you don't think I'm sold on Toyota, I'm not else I would have
    bought one by now.
    -The Corolla needs a telescoping steering wheel before I could take a
    test drive. When the seat is back where I like it, the steering wheel
    is too far away. I had the same problem with the Chrysler Cirrus in '95.
    -The Camry hybrid has a totally inadequate trunk for my needs.
    -The Camry 4 cyl is a possibility, but my recent readings tell me the
    Nissan Altima may suite me better.
     
    who, Feb 15, 2007
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    Some O Guest

    The big 3s convincing has been so poor the last few years.
    I haven't seen an intelligent auto ad for several years.
    They need to tell me why I should like a vehicle, not do stupid things
    in an ad to get my attention.
    The "foreign" makers have also started falling into this wasted
    advertising effort.
     
    Some O, Feb 15, 2007
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    DeserTBoB Guest

    I.e., Toyota's silly "balance beam" ads to try to convince people that
    their crappy Lexus V8-powered trucks are worth a crap. Doesn't
    matter...they're still as much garbage as their "1 tons" of yore,
    which were really bad. Meanwhile, Nissan's ready to start throwing in
    the towel on its Titan line....just as I predicted.
     
    DeserTBoB, Feb 15, 2007
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  8. I have to start thinking about a replacement for my LHS and, frankly,
    I'm at a total loss.

    I DON'T want a truck or a minivan and I certainly don't want a SUV, so
    right off the top that eliminates two-thirds of the Chrysler line-up.
    I had initially thought Dodge Challenger, but lately my social
    conscious has been kicking up a stink, so I've decided it must be
    fuel-efficient AND it must be a hybrid and, ideally, one of the
    plug-in variety.

    Some will argue hybrids make no economic sense and others might
    suggest a diesel would be a better alternative, but I really don't
    care. I *WANT* a hybrid and, regrettably, Chrysler doesn't offer one.
    And if and when they do, it will likely be available only on a truck
    or SUV, which would be of no interest to me whatsoever.

    I have a big emotional commitment with this company. I'm also a
    shareholder (yes, it is a sad tale of woe we speak). I desperately
    want my next car to be a Chrysler but there's nothing that meets my
    basic criteria and so there's a good chance I'll have to turn
    elsewhere. I can't tell you how disappointed I am right now.

    Cheers,
    Paul
     
    Paul M. Eldridge, Feb 15, 2007
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    Joe Guest

    There's not much we can do about it, but all the talking financial heads are
    blubbering about how Chrysler is "dragging down" the finances of Mercedes.
    They must have all gone crazy, or else I am. The perception in the
    financial world is that Chrysler is the part that sucks. I think they just
    forgot that it was Mercedes.

    The stock sure went up a lot today! 4% or so.



    , February 14, 2007.
     
    Joe, Feb 15, 2007
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    Some O Guest

    You and I are on the same page, except I sold my Chrysler stock (twice)
    making good profit on their ups and downs since '81.
    Fortunately my LH is still running very well and I still like it, so I'm
    being faithful to Chrysler by not buying another vehicle for now.
    However a 10+ yr old car was not in my plan as I can easily afford new.

    The hybrids also interest me, but I haven't seen one that meets my needs.
    The Camry is very close, but with the battery in the trunk there isn't
    enough trunk space for my needs.
    The hybrids with large engines, such as the Honda Accord V6, make no
    sense as the fuel savings are not there in real life driving.

    However the whole NA auto industry currently in flux, so waiting out the
    situation is probably the best move. Continuing with a clean running old
    car is actually good for the environment; manufacturing a new car is
    quite a load on the environment.

    Chrysler said they need more fuel efficient vehicles, then in the same
    breath they announced a muscle car for 2008.
    I'm not so sure about their recovery and DC dumping Chrysler may be a
    good move to get Chrysler on a different track.
     
    Some O, Feb 15, 2007
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  11. It seems more often than not, Chrysler's offerings are a little out of
    sync with the marketplace. I don't want to bash trucks and SUVs -- to
    each their own -- but coming out with something like the Chrysler
    Aspen (and doesn't that name bring back some truly horrific memories)
    at a time when the public is becoming increasingly concerned about the
    environment, when large SUVs carry an undeniable social stigma and
    when many of us are genuinely worried about the future cost of energy
    seems absolutely incredulous. To me, this is another classic example
    of "what the f*ck are they thinking?".

    For three generations, my family has bought Chryslers and you would be
    hard pressed to find anyone more loyal to this brand (seven out of my
    eight vehicles have been Chryslers). But right now you might say I'm
    a little angry with this company.

    I have five more payments on the 300, so nothing will happen until
    July at the earliest, but for the first time I can recall, I'll be
    carefully evaluating all my options.

    Cheers,
    Paul

    P.S.: I bought DCX very close to its peak; from that point forward,
    I've always referred to this stock as "Damn You, Chrysler".
     
    Paul M. Eldridge, Feb 15, 2007
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    NJ Vike Guest

    Did you ever close the door of an Altima? Sounds like it doesn't use the
    best of parts. I was considering one but not so sure know. Sound pretty
    "tinny" and cheap.
     
    NJ Vike, Feb 15, 2007
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  13. who

    who Guest

    I'll have to try that if I test drive one and shut the door behind me.
    <:)
    Could be just the lack of adequate sound insulation.
    For now I'm just evaluating specs and test reports.
     
    who, Feb 15, 2007
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    Bill Putney Guest

    One of the many things the so-called environmentalists ignore.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Feb 16, 2007
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