Chrysler leaning backward

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Mark T., Feb 21, 2005.

  1. Mark T.

    Mark T. Guest

    I have an '84 Chrysler New Yorker and it appears to be leaning backwards.
    Could it be a sign of weak coil springs or do I just need to replace the
    rear shocks?
     
    Mark T., Feb 21, 2005
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    Rick Brandt Guest

    Shocks are NOT what holds your car up. You need springs (unless they're
    adjustable),
     
    Rick Brandt, Feb 21, 2005
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    maxpower Guest


    If this vehicle has the load leveling system it will hold the vehicle up. If
    the system has a problem it will cause the system to drop in the back. This
    system has its own pump and ride height switches that are supposed to
    maintain proper ride height..

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Feb 22, 2005
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  4. Definitely time for new springs (probably front *and* rear), probably time
    for new shocks (front *and* rear).
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 22, 2005
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  5. Mark T.

    Rick Brandt Guest

    But on an 84 New Yorker?? I know some SUVs have that, but why would a luxo-boat
    have such a system?
     
    Rick Brandt, Feb 22, 2005
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  6. Air suspension was not available on the '84 New Yorker.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 22, 2005
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    Warren Weber Guest

     
    Warren Weber, Feb 22, 2005
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    Because people would load up their luxo-barges with suitcases and take
    a trip.

    My '78 Newport had the load leveller (with some screwy kewl spelling
    like Load-Levler or something) option when new (it doesn't now; the
    pump failed due to an accident and a replacement could not be found,
    so normal springs and shocks replaced it ten or fifteen years ago).
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Feb 22, 2005
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    Lugnut Guest

    Time to take Jimmy Hoffa out of the trunk.
     
    Lugnut, Feb 22, 2005
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    Bob P Guest

    I have a 2002 Olds Bravada SUV that has such an air suspensions system and
    it sucks royally. I have to continually take it back to the dealer (under
    warranty) as the rear end gets stuck up in the air and doesn't come back
    down. They put on a new compressor 2-3 weeks ago and now it's back up in the
    air again - this time the passenger side rear is higher than the drivers
    side rear. If you look at the car from the front or rear, the car is
    tilting. Why would this be - any comments on this. I am getting frustrated
    and go back to the dealer again tomorrow. Thanks for any help or comments.

    Bob P.
     
    Bob P, Feb 22, 2005
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    Art Guest

    Time for arbitration. Check the back of your warranty manual for
    instructions. When you threaten a buyback I bet they figure out how to fix
    it.
     
    Art, Feb 22, 2005
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    Steve Guest

    Odd, that's one thing that GM actually got right a long time ago and I
    wouldn't have expected trouble from it. My folks had an 84 Cadillac
    Sedan DeVille, and the level-ride system was bulletproof. Of course that
    car was an oddity all around- it had the notorious HT4100 time-bomb
    engine and the notorious TH200R4 transmision, and yet merrily ran up to
     
    Steve, Feb 22, 2005
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    kmatheson Guest

    Who makes a good replacement spring for these cars? I think the springs
    on my '90 Spirit need to be replaced, based on what the original poster
    described.

    I have heard the KYB springs are good, but I would like to maintain the
    original ride if possible.

    -Kirk Matheson
     
    kmatheson, Feb 22, 2005
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  14. KYB does not make springs. They make good shocks and struts and strut
    mounts, though, all of which you should replace with the springs.

    Standard replacement springs:

    NAPA 2775357 front, 2775352 rear.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 22, 2005
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    And, the pump for my Newport was a Delco. I wouldn't be surprised
    to learn the whole system was bought from GM.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Feb 22, 2005
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  16. I wouldn't be surprised to learn the pump on your Newport could be
    replaced by the pump from any of the '90s AC-body cars ("Imperial",
    "Dynasty") with the levelling system.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 22, 2005
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    They switched from a vacuum-powered pump with the height sensor
    opening and closing valves to an electric pump before that, so it
    would involve a complete retrofit.

    In another forum, we were discussing my front suspension. It occurs
    to me that I think I now know what incident led to my left lower
    control arm being replaced... I knew the vacuum powered pump (which
    was located in the left front fender) was knocked, and Dad spent quite
    a while trying to find a replacement, I don't remember him mentioning
    the LCA.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Feb 22, 2005
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  18. Unless you have air shocks, it is the springs. Shocks only control the
    motion, springs support the weight.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Feb 23, 2005
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  19. Because you don't want your luxury car pointing to the sky when you load
    the trunk with luggage and have a back seat full of passengers.
     
    Alex Rodriguez, Feb 23, 2005
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    Bob P Guest

    Well, I just got back from the GM dealership. They fixed the problem of the
    rear end being suspended upwards. This is what the repair order said:
    "Found hose for L.S. air bag kinked at compressor end. Lowered compressor &
    repaired hose. Re-mounted compressor roadtested ok. Also repaired leak at
    fittings at compressor."
    Any comments on this one????? I wonder how long this will last this time?
     
    Bob P, Feb 23, 2005
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