Chrysler hemi and air pollution

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Art, Jun 21, 2005.

  1. Art

    Nate Nagel Guest

    There were Olds motors and there were Chevy motors, and then sometime in
    the 70s they started putting Chevy motors in Oldsmobiles, and at the
    same time you could get an Olds engine in a Firebird (of all things...)

    In any case, the Olds 330/350/400/455/whatever IMHO was a hell of a lot
    better than the SBC... come to think of it, just about any GM engine
    *other* than Chevy was better than Chevy. But you're right, SBC
    performance parts are everywhere while you actually have to think about
    what you're doing and maybe even (gasp) do some custom work to get a few
    more ponies out of an Olds or Caddy engine.

    nate
     
    Nate Nagel, Jun 25, 2005
    #21
  2. Art

    Nate Nagel Guest

    Ayup, at least the 4.3...

    IIRC the 3800 was designed from the ground up to be a V-6 however and
    it's not only way older than the 4.3 but at least in its current
    iteration, it has a good reputation for durability...

    and then there's the 2.8 family. I really don't care whether they're
    good engines or not, anything that *sounds* that shitty when it's
    running, I don't want to drive.

    nate
     
    Nate Nagel, Jun 25, 2005
    #22
  3. Art

    Nate Nagel Guest

    A knowledgeable buyer would have been pissed, yes, to buy a new Olds
    thinking there was an Olds 350 under the hood and finding a Chubby 350.
    Now a case could be made (and I'm sure GM tried to make it) that the
    Chubby motor was more than adequate for any normal driving conditions.
    And, of course, they're actually right - it's not a *bad* engine. It's
    just that every other engine that they made at the time was pretty
    uniformly *better...*

    nate
     
    Nate Nagel, Jun 25, 2005
    #23
  4. Sure, but the threshhold of *needing* to get more ponies out of the Olds
    engine was much higher. A desmogged Olds 350 ran decently well for its
    day, and would allow the car to get out of its own way. A same-year
    desmogged Chev 350 had considerably poorer driveability and MUCH less
    punch.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jun 25, 2005
    #24
  5. That is also how Chrysler made the 3.9 (318 * 0.75).
    "not".
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jun 25, 2005
    #25
  6. Funny, isn't it, how there weren't any Chevrolets quietly built with
    Oldsmobile 350s instead of the Chev engine!
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jun 25, 2005
    #26
  7. Art

    Steve Guest

    From all I've read, ANY 4-valve head would be hard-pressed to work as
    well or better than the new Hemi™ head.

    Or is the new Hemi™ actually a
    Look at that combustion chamber image I linked- its definitely a 2-valve
    head. Its not even really a "rule," just general usage. Chrysler just
    capitalized on the terminolgy- they're not the only ones to have built
    2-valve hemi-headed engines (to remove all ambiguity) for street cars in
    the past, and may not be the only ones today, but I'm not aware of any
    others right off the bat.
     
    Steve, Jun 27, 2005
    #27
  8. Art

    Steve Guest

    Meh. Some Pontiac v8s were pretty lame. Its a little ironic that the
    Olds 403-powered Trans Ams are much less collectible now than
    Pontiac-powered ones... I'd almost prefer the Olds engine. Except the
    403 was never really a performance engine like the Pontiac was. Now if
    it had been a Buick 455 under the hood... :-D :-D :-D
     
    Steve, Jun 27, 2005
    #28
  9. Better not let Yyoyd "4-valve is ALWAYS better than 2-valve, and disc
    brakes are ALWAYS better than drum" Parker hear you say that...
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jun 27, 2005
    #29
  10. Art

    Steve Guest

    Hasn't it been PLEASANT around here without his bleating?
     
    Steve, Jun 28, 2005
    #30
  11. Surely has.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jun 28, 2005
    #31
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