Chinese rotors are junk

Worse than that. They want young minds that can be lied to and molded
into their way of thinking. The same reason they want young people in
car sales - because they feed them motivational crap instead of real
business basics.

Oh - and the lower wages.

The problem is - when it hits the fan, and it eventually will - at best
you end up having to outsource to experts to do the repairs. At worst,
the company implodes.

 

But you have to ask why did those companies bought into the corporate system
to begin with? I saw this a lot in the 90's in the software industry, since
the
stock market was going great guns, everyone wanted to IPO their companies
because they knew their companies had no long term plan for survival so they
wanted to get out while they could still soak a buttload of stupid
investors. This
was also happening to a lot of other industries too.

It wasn't the corporate structure that was the problem, the problem was that
the companies that were adopting the corporate structure did not have
diversified markets nor did they have long term survival plans. Worse than
that
with the information companies, so many of them had the entire company
structured around a small group of key people - the entire company's value
was tied up into the heads of 5 people there. None of these companies
should
have been public companies in the first place.

There are some industries and some types of companies that simply run better
as partnerships, or sole proprietorships, or some such. Nobody is out there
arguing that all companies should become public and do IPO's.

I'd rather have 200 car buyers that refused to buy anything that wasn't
significantly
made in the US.

That's a losers argument. It is made by people that in High School get a
bug up their butt that the only kind of job they are going to deign to work
is some specific narrow industry, so they focus their entire school time
on training and preparing for this perfect job, then when they graduate they
find there's too many people with the same degree. I hear this from
wannabe school teachers all the time. They scream and cry because the
starting wages for something like an Art teacher is in the toilet, all the
while totally ignoring that there's a ton of unemployed Art teachers out
there and more being churned out by the schools every day. Frankly if
teachers ever wanted to get paid better they would engineer a shutdown of
3/4 of the teacher training programs in the country, there's far too many of
them that are being graduated every year.

People need to learn that when your getting a college degree, you get it
in what SOCIETY needs you to get it in. You DON'T get your degree in
what YOU want to get it in. If your lifelong dream is to teach Art then
do it on your own time, in the meantime get your damn CPA's license.

Don't ever compare Israel to the US. People live in Israel for 1 reason
only -
because they have been brainwashed by the Israeli government into believing
that Israel is the only One True Country that Jewish people should be living
in.
The PHD's that are sweeping streets in Israel wouldn't move out of there for
any money because they all believe that they are doing God's work just by
living there. Why do you think that the Israeli government has been so
strong
in pushing settlements into the West Bank? It's because all Israel is about
is
Jewish Homeland, rah, rah, rah. Your dealing with a population there which
is
just as wacked out as the Arabs that are living next door and just as
lustily
wanting to slit their neighbor's throats.

Ted

 

Sure. You expect this with startup companies that are all glitz and no
substance. It's been going on for over a centruy, in fact.

But seeing companies that have a good product and long-term viability do
this is just sad. It's the road to ruin for everyone but the few that
started the company.

Long-term in the U.S. is considered 3-5 years by the morons who teach the
stuff in our colleges. Long-term in Germany is seen as 20 years. And you
wonder why they still compete so well despite being so much smaller than the
U.S. Japan also takes this view by and large.

I pay extra of stuff made in first-world countries.(ie - mostly Europe
and Japan these days - sigh.) Electronics made in Japan are quite decent,
actually, but you have to check - not all Sonys are made there anymore.

No it is not - it's the sad reality. Why do you think we have as high
as 50% dropout rates in High School? Because the young adults feel that
there is no way that they can make the American Dream(tm) come true for
them without either getting into The Military or looking for a fast buck.

But last I checked, there are not very many jack-of-all-trades degrees. They
are all by definition like this - very defined and narrow. Unless you want
to take something like Philosophy or English, which is only going to get you
the ability to get your resume seen.

The sad fact is that Computers and Engineering is a dead career field in this
country as the top jobs are all going to people with masters or PHds. The rest
are jobbed out overseas, and the displaced people all suck up the middle-range
jobs(which filters down...) We did this to ourselves.

It's not art teachers, but technology as well. We're gutting our own educated
workforce in exchange for quick profits.

Based upon the last few years, that means two main career fields:
Counselling/Social workers and Accounting or an MBA. The rest are
dying fields that are overpopulated with 40-60 year old "downsized"
people with more experience and qualifications than you could possibly
hope to have as a new graduate.

Oh - I forgot Culinary School. I hear food service is considered a
decent career these days. Yay.

Okay - how about another example. Russia. Tons of educated people and
not enough real jobs anymore. Or Mexico. Either you are upper-class in
Mexico or you are effectively a peasant.

 

You're being very obtuse. Does your statement mean you think
Chinese rotors are junk, or not?

 

Oh - I already said they are junk. Terrible in fact.

 

Mechanical engineering, chemical engineering, electrical engineering are all
very broad fields.

Not to mention national security.
However engineering enrollment has been sliding downward for many years
so there really isn't a glut. It's much too difficult compared to a degree
in education for that that to happen. What is happening is that places
like india have built excellent engineering schools that are running at
capacity. Because the wage in india is so much lower, corporations are
attracted to it.

 

Although, oddly enough, not many broads in them.

 

Don't expect Democrat change thing around! They never will. Both Demo and
Rep are doing the same shitty thing.