China - get ready

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by George Orwell, May 19, 2007.

  1. Automotive News - May 14, 2007

    Last year, China eclipsed Japan as the world's second largest
    automotive market, including commercial vehicles. By the end of the
    decade, China could pass the United States.

    Like a small planet, China is exerting its gravity on global automakers
    and major suppliers. With growth stagnant in mature markets such as
    Japan, the United States and Europe, China's booming economy is
    irresistible.

    Volkswagen AG and General Motors are the top global automakers in
    China, but Toyota Motor Corp. is gaining on them quickly.

    Meanwhile, Chinese automakers are swiftly gaining expertise. They are
    launching their own brands http://www.cheryglobal.com/ building their
    engineering staffs and exporting to developing markets in Asia and
    Africa. And some are laying plans to export vehicles to the United
    States.

    China is determined to join the world's major industrial nations. The
    auto industry will help it get there.
     
    George Orwell, May 19, 2007
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  2. And this is why we need to be inslaving illegal immigrants...put them to
    work for us for free so we can build a more inexpensive car.
     
    Reasoned Insanity, May 19, 2007
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  3. George Orwell

    N9NEO Guest

    Didn't we already try enslaving one race awhile back? Look what it's
    gotten us. Do you really think we should do it again?

    NEO
     
    N9NEO, May 19, 2007
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  4. George Orwell

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    "WE?"

    It was their race that enslaved them to begin with.

    Come to think of it, over the last XX thousand years, many races
    were enslaved, including the anglo-saxon.
     
    aarcuda69062, May 19, 2007
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    F.H, Guest

    Its not what *he* thinks that matters, is it? ;)
     
    F.H,, May 19, 2007
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  6. Who's "we"? You and who else?
     
    Robert Reynolds, May 20, 2007
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    someone Guest

    if this goes on, the illegals will go to china in a few
    years. as the chinese get americanized, they'll need someone
    to shovel shit because they'll get to good to do it.
    so we need to build cheap, one way liners to aid this coming
    migration. a "liberty liner" sounds good.
    is there a henry kaiser in the house?
     
    someone, May 20, 2007
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    Joe Guest

    Well, I don't mind them building a car, but I sure hope they spruce up their
    machine work a bit. I don't see why a country that builds all the worlds
    advanced electronics would have such terrible machinists.
     
    Joe, May 20, 2007
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  9. If the cars they produce are anything like the food they produce, they
    will be deadly to drive. How could anyone trust a country that
    regularly puts industrial chemicals, sawdust, and garbage like that
    in FOOD that it exports?

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, May 20, 2007
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  10. George Orwell

    F.H, Guest

    Very important point. And apparently they produce mass quantities of
    vitamins. Heh, we just saw an example of their QC on dog food.
     
    F.H,, May 20, 2007
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    rm Guest

    After a visit to Mickey D's, the Chinese figured that the Americans
    will eat anything.

    cordially, as always,

    rm
     
    rm, May 20, 2007
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    aarcuda69062 Guest

    After watching a worker at a McDonalds serve something that she
    had dropped on the floor, I believe you.
     
    aarcuda69062, May 20, 2007
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    Father Guido Guest

    Would you like some melamine with that?
     
    Father Guido, May 20, 2007
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    NoTop442 Guest

    The best thing we can do is buy as much domestic made items as
    possible. Hard to do these days. Being a Tool & Die Maker I have seen
    the erosion it first hand.
     
    NoTop442, May 20, 2007
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    NoTop442 Guest

    The best thing we can do is buy as many domestic made items as
    possible. Tough to do with most shelf items made overseas. Being a
    Tool & Die Maker I have seen it first hand.
     
    NoTop442, May 20, 2007
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    Rob Guest

    America will moan and bitch about the awful quality of the food and
    other products it imports from China, but will buy them nonetheless.
    Because the stuff is cheap, and Americans are nothing if not cheap. It
    worked for the Japs, it worked for the Koreans, and it'll work for the
    Chinese. The crap America buys from Walmart is a pretty good indication
    of the value America puts on quality. Meanwhile, when the last American
    worker leaves the last American factory, turn out the lights behind you.
     
    Rob, May 21, 2007
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    Double Tap Guest

    I have been reading this thread and the great amusement it has provided me
    is terrific.
    However you say Americans are nothing if not cheap, you could not be more
    hopelessly wrong.
    Just take a trip to any country that gets a significant number of American
    tourists and ask the locals who are the best tippers. You can bet you life,
    car and home that the answer you get from the overwhelming majority is
    Americans. We over tip to a fault. We also ( I have not yet checked the
    numbers to be certain) buy more BMWs than any other country and we all know
    what total pieces of crap they are, spending more time in the shop than on
    the road. I also suspect we buy more Mercedes Benzes than any other country.
    No we are not a country of cheap bastards like the non-tipping Asians, or
    under tipping English and French. We are just not very smart when it comes
    accumulating money. We spend everything we earn and then borrow more to
    spend.
     
    Double Tap, May 21, 2007
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    F.H, Guest

    ADD:
    The people who shop at Walmart don't do so because they are cheap.
    The US and China are the world’s two largest economies – but the
    citizens of the two nations differ in terms of financial habits. For
    example in 2005, savings accounted for at least 30 percent of Chinese
    household income while the US registered no savings at all.

    http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=7284
     
    F.H,, May 21, 2007
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    F.H, Guest

    When Henry Ford raised the pay of his workers to $5 per day (double what
    other manufacturers were paying), he said he was doing so in part
    because he wanted his employee's to be able to buy his cars. If the
    American workforce can't make a decent living, they'll stop buying
    products made in America, which will lead to fewer people making a
    decent living. This death spiral for an economy and a nation's middle
    class that we are now seeing is a result of Reagan/Clinton/Bush trade
    and economic policies.

    Thom Hartmann (Screwed, pp 174)
     
    F.H,, May 21, 2007
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  20. For Merc it's

    1. Germany
    2. USA
    3. UK (not far behind USA)

    As regards tipping, these broad statements are, as so many broad statements,
    either wrong or based on prejudice and/or ignorance.

    Americans might tip 15% because if they didn't (at home) they might have the
    staff turn on them.

    In the 'Germanic' parts of Europe tips are just tokens to indicate
    appreciation, e.g. pay EUR 25 for a 23.70 bill.

    In parts of Asia such as Singapore a tip is an insult.


    DAS

    For direct replies replace nospam with schmetterling
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, May 23, 2007
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