Caravan Thermostat Question.

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Daniel, Oct 28, 2006.

  1. Daniel

    Daniel Guest

    I have to replace my thermostat in my 1999 Caravan with the 3.0 V6. Have
    about 92,000 miles, so guess it is time since it barely warms up after
    driving 10-15 minutes. I am going to buy a Stant thermostat which sells the
    195 degree unit like the OEM temp is. They also offer a 180 degree unit. Why
    would I want to put in a 180 degree thermostat?

    Thanks,
    Dan
     
    Daniel, Oct 28, 2006
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    DeserTBoB Guest

    You don't.
     
    DeserTBoB, Oct 29, 2006
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    maxpower Guest

    Install the part that is designed for the vehicle. 195 degree.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Oct 29, 2006
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    Bill Putney Guest

    As cars get older and their cooling systems become less efficient
    (radiator primarily), people may have a better sense of security by
    putting a lower temp thermostat in. It may be of benefit in some
    vehicles (like in normal operation if the thermostat partially opens and
    modulates to control engine temperature after warmup). It may in some
    cases actually help compensate. But if it's not needed, you could be
    making the engine run less efficiently, especially if it never gets out
    of open loop warmup mode. It might be considered by some to be a
    bandaid for a problem that needs to be fixed.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Oct 29, 2006
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    NewMan Guest

    I imagine it is there to help compennsate for different operating
    conditions.

    When I used to live on the prairies, the owners manual for may car
    said that 10W30 was the recommended oil. However, if you read the fine
    print, that was based on "normal" driving conditions! In about
    November the outside temp used to go below freezing, and not long
    after that was going negative (as in -20 to -30) and staying that way
    until April! Under THOSE conditions, the manual recommended 5W30.

    So if I had to guess, I would say that the 180 degree thermostat is
    probably available for people who commonly live and drive in hotter
    climate conditions like the Arizona Desert in the summertime. Under
    those conditions, the engine operating at a lower temperature could
    extend its life and even prevent "boil overs".

    You could always call and ask DC or Stant, but my guess is that the
    195 degree thermo is the one to install for the vast majority of
    drivers.
     
    NewMan, Oct 29, 2006
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    DeserTBoB Guest

    Wrong. If the cooling system is in proper condition, running a 180°
    stat, even out in the low desert where temperatures routinely top
    105°F, you'll wind up with higher-than-allowed HC and CO emissions.

    I run a 195° thermostat in my 318 and never have overheating
    trouble...even with the single row core radiator. This myth comes
    from the olden days when people used to run alcohol-based
    antifreeze...running a 160° stat in those days would prevent "boil
    off" of the alcohol. Anything below 180° on most engine designs also
    increases piston/ring wear, as Continental found out in a long term
    study done many years ago.
     
    DeserTBoB, Oct 29, 2006
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  7. Daniel

    Daniel Guest

    Thanks for all your comments. Guess I will be going with the 195 degree
    thermostat. The "Mommy Car" sure has not see that temperature for several
    months. And it will be nice to have some heat in the van :)

    Dan
     
    Daniel, Oct 30, 2006
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    damnnickname Guest

    well dont be surprised when you finally remove it and find it to come out
    in peices, and make sure you get out all parts if this is the case.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    damnnickname, Oct 30, 2006
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    philthy Guest

    you don't it may set a engiune lite on that engine the code would be cold too
    long
     
    philthy, Oct 30, 2006
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  10. Daniel

    Daniel Guest

    Thanks Glenn,
    You are very RIGHT kind sir. I took it out only to find that the thermostat
    was broken on one side and bent out. It did not look like it had lost any of
    the parts from the unit. The replacement - a Stant - went in and seems to
    be working just fine. Although the Stant thermostat looks a little different
    from the OEM, with an opening a little smaller than the original. The main
    thing is the engine warms up within 5 - 10 minutes. Good thing..... winter
    is on it's way to Motown :)

    Dan
     
    Daniel, Nov 2, 2006
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    maxpower Guest

    Happy Motoring
     
    maxpower, Nov 2, 2006
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    Bill Putney Guest

    A big thumbs up for Glen!!

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Nov 3, 2006
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