Can you replace just the rubber hose on a transmission cool line?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by AFX, Aug 31, 2008.

  1. AFX

    AFX Guest

    I have a transmission cool line that broke loose from its clamp and
    got a hole rubbed in it by the drivebelt. The only problem is getting
    the entire line assembly off is near impossible with its location. My
    question is, since the line is metal with a rubber hose that looks to
    be crimped on can I just replace the rubber hose?


    Sorry for the quality of the pic had to use my crap cam.


    Pic
    http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/afxtwn/100_0374.jpg

    Running a
    1998 Chrysler Concorde 3.2l v6


    Im lookin for an answer I wanna hear Bill Putney!! :)
     
    AFX, Aug 31, 2008
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  2. AFX

    Bill Putney Guest

    Pshaw!!

    Just buy some power steering hose of the right size (measure OD of the
    metal tube with some calipers) at the auto parts store and put it on the
    metal tubing with regular screw clamps. There's very little pressure in
    that line, so even if there's no retention bump on the metal tube, the
    friction should retain it fine - just get the clamps nice and tight.
    Use a dremel/Mototool with cutoff wheel to remove the crimp ferrule.
    And of course make sure it isn't going to rub against anything.

    If you don't want to replace the whole length of rubber hose, cut out
    the bad section and make the splice using the right size brake tubing
    and screw clamps. That will be possible and make for an easier repair
    if the hole is away from the crimp ( preferably at least an inch - can't
    tell from the photo). Just be sure to bend the tubing if needed for
    hose routing and debur the ends of the tubing so as not to cut thru the
    rubber hose from the inside over time. If the hole is too near the
    crimp, then put a new short section of p.s. hose at that end and adapt
    to the remaining section of rubber hose with a short length of brake tubing.

    And of course you could cut off the metal tubing with the crimp - use a
    tubing cutter, not a saw or cut-off wheel to minimize metal filings in
    the system.

    Good luck with that - it's a tight area to work in. Maybe you can
    disconnect that line at the radiator end which might allow you to get
    the part you need to work on more out in the open (below the engine).

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Aug 31, 2008
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  3. AFX

    AFX Guest

    See now those are the answers I like to hear :)


    The hole is about 4 inches from the metal crimp so I think Im going to
    go with your cut and couple idea with some good tight hoses.


    Funny thing was I had almost the exact same problem on a computer I
    have thats water cooled and I did the same thing willy nilly no
    questions asked. If I only had that same confidence with cars Ide be
    set :)


    Thanks again Bill. If you ever have any computer problems gimme a yell.
     
    AFX, Aug 31, 2008
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  4. AFX

    Bill Putney Guest

    You're welcome. I just might take you up on that.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Aug 31, 2008
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  5. AFX

    AFX Guest

    Ill update if all works well. feel free to email me with any tech
    questions.
     
    AFX, Aug 31, 2008
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    aarcuda69062 Guest

    What is the winter climate where you're located?
    I can tell you for fact that the hose will blow off if the temperatures
    get low and the tube you're splicing to doesn't have a barb to restrict
    the hose from sliding off.
     
    aarcuda69062, Aug 31, 2008
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  7. AFX

    Bill Putney Guest

    Even with almost no pressure in the hose?

    Bill Putney
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    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Aug 31, 2008
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  8. AFX

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Yes. I got a very panicked call 2 winters ago from the owner of a 96
    LHS.
    He was going to work in the morning and one of the hoses someone had
    scabbed in blew off and he now had a huge puddle of ATF+3 all over his
    driveway. Took a bit for me to understand from his description what had
    happened, it was a bit of a drive to where the vehicle was stranded and
    I wanted to make sure I brought along proper tooling. I put the
    beginnings of a bubble flare on the tubes where the hose was scabbed in
    and all was well once we refilled the transaxle.
    The overnight low then was probably +5 or 10 degrees F., not the coldest
    for around here but nippley enough. :cool:
     
    aarcuda69062, Aug 31, 2008
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  9. AFX

    AFX Guest

    Oh I dont worry about the cold :) I live in Houston so the only
    temperature here is hot and slightly less hot,


    I ended up getting a 9mm hose from autozone made for trans fluid and a
    copper tube mender with barbs on it, It took about 20 minutes to get
    it in the tubes so that along with a clip will keep me safe (fingers
    crossed)
     
    AFX, Sep 1, 2008
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    aarcuda69062 Guest

    That should be fine.
     
    aarcuda69062, Sep 1, 2008
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    Ron Seiden Guest

    Actually, just cut through the line right at the leak. If it's in the metal
    line, move the two (cut) ends apart enough to slide appropriate hose over
    both sections and clamp both ends (with two clamps per end, if you're
    worried). If the leak was in the rubber hose, same technique but slide a
    length of metal brake line inside the cut ends and clamp. This way your
    patch is holding pressure only at the leak/cut -- almost a direct line from
    one section of the old hose into the other...
     
    Ron Seiden, Sep 1, 2008
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  12. AFX

    AFX Guest

    Well gentlemen I am very happy to report that after splicing the new
    tubing on and putting 8 quarts of trans fluid (I think I might be a
    little over on that) That the car started up and shifted right into
    gear with no problems whatsoever.



    Once again, thank you all for your unending help!
     
    AFX, Sep 2, 2008
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  13. AFX

    Bill Putney Guest

    You're welcome.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Sep 2, 2008
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