Can oil & filters change cause enging fire?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by I.Pavlov, Aug 2, 2005.

  1. I.Pavlov

    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    The first two things I'd be curious about are whether they actually
    put the right filter on the vehicle, and whether it is tight. Third
    would be whether the filler cap was put back on.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Aug 3, 2005
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    maxpower Guest

    *YAWN*
     
    maxpower, Aug 3, 2005
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  3. I.Pavlov

    maxpower Guest

    Even if the filler cap was left off it would not allow oil out of the valve
    cover, some slight vapors only. If the recall was not done and the oil
    change jockey hit the fuel rail and caused it to leak afterwards, that would
    not be the fault of the person changing the oil.
    If the original OP took his car to the dealer for service, they should have
    ran a VEIP to see if there are any outstanding recalls that apply.A good
    investigator would be able to determine the cause if they were interested
    And if the fire originated at the battery , it would not be a fuel or an oil
    leak, possible low electrolyte in the battery causing battery to explode
     
    maxpower, Aug 3, 2005
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  4. I.Pavlov

    Guest Guest

    I'm NOT familiar with the 3.3 and 3.8 Mopars - but if, when the oil is
    changed, oil can run onto ANY part of the exhaust, the danger of a
    fire within minutes is there. I generally wipe down the exhaust
    components that get oily with a rag, and then give a squirt of
    something like "brake-kleen" for good measure to remove as much oil as
    possible.- making ABSOLUTELY SURE I don't leave a rag behind.
    The fact hot oil was smelled moments after startup would lead me to
    believe there WAS some oil on the exhaust.
    On my current Pontiac it is impossible to change the oil and filter
    without oiling the exhaust. My old Aerostar was almost as bad, and the
    Merc Duratec is even worse.
    I have seen several under-hood fires caused by oil on the exhaust in
    the last 35 years or so - as well as a few from shop rags left behind.

    This would NOT show low oil after the fact, or turn on any warning
    lamps.

    If it was an electrical short, it is most likely that SOMETHING would
    have misbehaved. The "preponderence of evidence" would lead me to
    believe it was a fire caused by excessive oil on a hot engine part.
     
    Guest, Aug 4, 2005
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  5. I.Pavlov

    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    More like a fine mist.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Aug 4, 2005
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    Steve B. Guest

    Perhaps the "On Fire" light was burned out?

    Steve B.
     
    Steve B., Aug 5, 2005
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  7. I.Pavlov

    I.Pavlov Guest

    Are you joking or is there indeed such a light?
    If not, this looks like a good idea to me - some
    sort of indication that under-hood temperature is
    abnormally high.

    IP.
     
    I.Pavlov, Aug 5, 2005
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  8. I.Pavlov

    I.Pavlov Guest

    The problem is that the vehicle doesn't have comprehensive insurance.
    I'm a good driver, but the insurance doesn't recognize that and asks
    exorbitant prices for comprehensive since I've been driving in US
    for only four years, so I decided to assume the risk, but now this
    doesn't seem like a terribly good idea :-(
    In any case, there seems to be some hope still. I'll only have to
    deal with the repair shop directly instead of through insurance and
    that might be much more hassle. - Insurance companies deal with such
    cases en-mass, but for a single case like this it is even difficult
    to find a lawyer. The van's value is probably 9K and lawyers seem to
    prefer slip & fall cases where they can exaggerate the damage to
    anything like this where the damage is clearly determined.
     
    I.Pavlov, Aug 5, 2005
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    I.Pavlov Guest

    I talked to the Chrysler tech at the dealership yesterday and showed him
    the photos of the damage. He said that disturbed wiring might be likely
    cause but he also said that in cases like this it is almost irrelevant,
    but what is important is that they worked on the car and then minutes
    after they finished it went on fire. This by itself almost totally excludes
    the coincidence. He said that this should be taken care of by shop's
    insurance. It looks like he is very familiar with the subject - most likely
    Chrysler service department has similar insurance to take care of possible
    cases like this one.

    IP.
     
    I.Pavlov, Aug 5, 2005
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Most cars should probably have a "SON OF A B**CH!! HEY A**HOLE!!" light.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Aug 5, 2005
    #30
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    N8N Guest

    When the cutlines around the hood start glowing orange, that's your
    light right there.

    nate
     
    N8N, Aug 5, 2005
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  12. Well, what do you know, that's just what I said 2 days ago:

    "The fact that the fire started minutes after you left the oil change place
    means that there's a preponderance of the evidence that a mistake they
    made caused the fire"
    I'll give you some more unsolicited advice - the longer you waste time
    yakking this up with us, convenient service departments, lawyers offices,
    and so on, instead of doing what I mentioned and calling the oil change
    place shop's
    insurance company and filing a claim, the harder it's going to be to get
    the claim paid.

    But I won't mind if you check this with the Chrysler tech at the dealer -
    again. ;-)

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 6, 2005
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