Built like a Mercedes (?)

Or maybe even a reduction in benefits ? Those benefits are no good if you're
no longer entitled to them !

It seems to me like American auto workers reckon they deserve to be immune to
changes in the the economy. Anyone with views that wacky deserves to lose
their job.

Graham

 

Certainly not China or India. Try again.

Graham

 

Hah ! You beat me to it !

The US military can't even cope with Iraq.

Graham

 

You sem to have a strange view of things.

Thatcher did her bit to destroy British Industry but UK unemployment is by no
means among the highest in Europe.

Graham

 

Sensible trimming fixes that ( as per my post ).

Graham

 

That's why you delete stuff you're not directly responding to, just like
I did.

 

Maybe moving the mouse is too tricky for these guys ?

Graham

 

Sorry Budd, but this is incorrect. There is no way that we can compete with
gubberment subsidized third and second world countries unless of course, you
are willing to kill the American dream and have the workers live like those
in second and third world countries, including the poverty and pollution.

And the only way that will happen is by forcing some types of trade
restrictions.

On this we agree and they did it by playing on our short sightedness and
greed.

 

referring to humans as parasites.


Even still, telling someone to kill themselves is pretty ignorant dude. As
for his parasite comment, he is sadly correct. All we seem do anymore is
take and destroy and we are getting VERY efficient at doing it. Just
because you don't want to hear it doesn't make it any less true.

 

LOL.

Like it or not, each region has its own design

Yeah right! I weigh 300lbs and have never had a problem. I have never even
heard of problems with cars due to weight of cargo although I do know of one
Ford Mondeo that has settled on its springs a bit after 200,000 miles. A new
set of springs would see it back as new.



Part of that is because we drive longer distances,

So you are saying now that it is easier on the car in the States. Certainly
long distances are infinitely easier than the narrow twisty lanes we have in
Europe although our freeways generally have average speeds of 80mph or so.





Another factor in those distances is the fact that

Still easier on a car. In Africa half the distances would be on unmetalled
roads and similarly in India and Pakistan. Have you watched the news and
seen what driving conditions are like there?


Add to this that our fuel has

I fail to see how driving a lot is relevant except that you do fewer cold
starts per mile. 200,000 miles is the same distance wherever you are.


I have yet to see a pick up truck from Japan deal with the

Half ton eh? I don't think there are many pick-ups sold in Europe with a
payload of less than a ton but there you go. Most of your pick-ups seem to
carry not a lot more than fishing tackle.

Huw

 

Are you one of the majority of Americans who have never travelled outside
your border? The way you describe your driving conditions and your knowledge
of elsewhere surely suggests it.




are

4.6 gallons at 50mpg [and average for a mid size diesel family car on such a
journey today.] at UK£4 per gallon times two is UK£36.80

One thing I forgot with the train was the return journey. Another £55 each
which tilts the math very decicively in favour of the car even with only one
passenger.


However, with your cost for parking, you spend

Of course it would be. 20 cars would give a huge financial saving. Using two
buses would be even more efficient and would yield a massive saving compared
to either cars or train.
The only disadvantage with 20 cars compared to the train would be the
logistics of finding a parking space in European Cities.

Huw

So how come the rebated fuel train which recieves massive govt subsidy is
still more expensive than the humble motor car with our extremely expensive
road fuel?

 

Yes but my one of my cars costs over £1 a mile and the Panda only costs
£0.25 a mile. forget parking for simplicity then a 440 mile round trip in
the Panda would total £110 while a train trip to London would also cost £110
return for 1 person plus the cost of getting to the station and back at £20.
So one person by train would cost £130, just £20 more than the train but
four people cost a ridiculous £520
The same four people travelling by Panda would cost £110 divided by four
equals only £27.50 each.

Even in the Range Rover they would cost only £440 or £110 each which is
cheaper than the same four would travel by train.


Huw
T

 

Did we just hit the Godiwn criteria?

Bill Putney
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address with the letter 'x')

 

Well then change the word "demands" to "requires". The phrase "demands
less money to accept employment" fits what I was saying. Geez Louise.

Bill Putney
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address with the letter 'x')

 

A two ton car is a big beast. Better example is a 1.25 ton car or 312kg per
passenger.
An average carriage can seat around 70 from memory so to equal the car it
would need to be under 22 tons



Seat for seat, the train carriage ( or car ) is significantly

It is my belief that an Intercity train carriage weighs some 60 tons which
is nearly three times the weight per person compared with a car to which you
need to add the considerable weight of the engine. Now if you have evidence
that carriages are very much lighter then I would be willing to accept it.

Huw

 

Bill Putney wrote:

....Godwin...

Bill Putney
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address with the letter 'x')

 

What makes you think they are subsidised ?

Graham

 

They make cars cheaper than Americans ergo they must be subsidised. Is that
right?

Huw

 

I presume that must be Mr TBone's thinking ( if think is the right word to use
! ).

Graham

 

Yes. It is certainly not my belief.

Huw