Built like a Mercedes (?)

A common myth.

Gasoline production is actually more 'energy ineffcient' than ethanol.

Graham

 

Subsidies are not required.

Graham

 

They may also work harder.

Graham

 

crude oil is a fossil fuel and takes what millions of years to make
natually??

 

Really, overpopulation is the main culprit (also in most problems on

Hey parasite, walk the talk. Take a gun and put a bullet in your head and take the first step towards solving the "overpopulation"
problem.

cp

 

Can some one explain to me why people have such a bug up their butt about

No, and I don't read page 1, then page 1-2, then page 1-3, 1-4, etc. When
reading down through a thread, it's helpful to ignore all the crap that I've
already read...

 

Agreed, there is no doubt that once they find there is a market for the
stuff, they will sell, rather than pay, to get rid of it. However, the
sources for this go into the farming industry, as soy beans are a cheap
source of the raw material. I doubt the government will have to subsidize
this industry, it just makes too much sense and there is too much
opportunity to make a whole economic cycle out of it.

I've done a bunch of research on this, as I drive a diesel. This fuel will
be much more regionally priced for quite a while. That is to say, the closer
to the source you are, the cheaper it'll be. After a couple of years, it'll
get big enough that it'll either compete with traditional fuel at a slightly
better price, or it'll find an industry standard price.

But I doubt that it'll need much money from the government to get it
started, since many of these companies are starting in people's garages with
the small units. The scale on which they can make fuel leads me to estimate
profitability within a few months, depending on amounts made. I'd do it
myself, only I've got an idea I might be out of business shortly afterwards,
given what I know about local stuff from my inside sources. If the event I'm
told about doesn't materialize, I'm going after it.

--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

 

take the first step towards solving the "overpopulation"

Stupid is as stupid does and you sir, are proof positive.

 

Correct, which makes it for all practical purposes, a non-renewable
resource.

 

Are VW/Audi and BMW inferior cars in your opinion too ?

No, but they also have far better records of reliability in the states.

--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

 

Curious then that where cars do take a real pouding such as in India, the

Perhaps you think that is a real pounding, but reality tells me that use in
the States can be very harsh to a car that isn't designed here in the
States. Like it or not, each region has its own design characteristics.
Stuff designed outside the states tends to be less than up to the task here
in the States. I hate to say it, but americans in general tend to be heavier
than other humans. Thus cars take more abuse. Part of that is because we
drive longer distances, as we don't have the rail system, nor the same
lifestyle as Europe or the middle east. Another factor in those distances is
the fact that we don't have restrictive borders as frequently as other
regions do, thus we drive farther more frequently. Add to this that our fuel
has traditionally been cheaper, and you have yet another reason we drive a
lot. I have yet to see a pick up truck from Japan deal with the loads we
dump on our pickups. This decade may see that opinion change in the half ton
market.


--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

 

as i understand it, one of the big cost

Hardly a good reason, given that the Japanese manufacturers typically hire
american workers at their plants in the U.S. Thus I have to believe that
americans in any automotive plant work at about the same level of effort.

--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

 

That's because you imbeciles fail to remove the irrelevant text.
So what happens you have a bunch of morons adding a few lines to
the top of a preceding long article.

 

Because you've never had to read through a complex thread, and most of
your posts are of the 'me too' kind?

 

You buy the crap Ford and GM puts out. Why is it my patriotic duty to
subsidize car manufacturers who have contempt for their buyers?

What does war have to do with it?!

 

So trains are a massively utilised transport form in America today? Yeah

As I said, travel isn't always based on best efficiency or lowest cost. You
claimed a train wasn't the least costly or the most efficient, and both were
proven as assests of rail travel.

What costs did you add that I did not? NONE. Your costs for car travel of
220 miles (miles in the UK? sounds odd to me.....) are roughly £30, which
seem low, given the amount of fuel needed to travel that distance. However,
with your cost for parking, you spend £60 vs. the train at £65. Car pooling
dewfinitely helps your example. I'm sure if I added three others to defray
my costs, I too could do the Philly /DC run at about $15 total per person.
However, if you had 100 people to move, cars would NOT be the efficient way
to do it.

Once again, you are putting personal cost above efficiency, which is fine,
but it does not take away from the efficiency of the train.

Sadly, no, it does not. My example was pretty clear.

Again , you are arguing cost to the commuter, rather than efficiency of mode
of travel. Trains are more efficient at moving large numbers of people than
autos. If people were willing to spend a bit more, and get a bit more
service in return, rail travel would become more popular. But again,
popularity is not a measure of efficiency.


--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

 

A typical figure for the cost of running a car that would be allowable by the
taxman that icludes depreciation, maintenance and other costs in addition to
fuel would be around 40p a mile.

That 220 mile jouney equates to £88 by that measure.

Graham

 

Really, overpopulation is the main culprit (also in most problems on

Look first what I replied to above. Hitler was the last person I heard of referring to humans as parasites.

cp

 

That's America all over.

Next, the CEO wil take early retirement and get another $10M.

Graham

 

How many ppl are in any postion to *demand* their remuneration outside a
'select few' ?

Graham