Built like a Mercedes (?)

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Comments4u, Jan 29, 2006.

  1. Comments4u

    Steve Guest

    Guenter Scholz wrote:

    You still don't get it. How long does it take to reach a town 120 miles
    away at 60 mph?

    2 hours!

    How long does it take to reach a town 120 kilometers away at 60 kph?

    2 hours!

    DUH!

    Unless you happen to be going to a town exactly a multiple of 10
    kilometers away, your "advantage" is not an advantage at all. It might
    be a slightly bigger advantage if there were 100 seconds in a minute,
    100 minutes in an hour and 10 hours in a day, but there aren't. So it isn't.

    And miles-per-hour has another advantage. 60 mph is 1 mile/minute, and
    also happens to be a good rule-of-thumb average speed for a
    cross-country trip. So the number of miles you're going is (to a first
    order approximation) how many minutes it'll take. OTOH, 60 kph (1
    km/minute) is far to slow to use as a rule of thumb, and 120 kph (2
    km/minute) is far too fast.
     
    Steve, Feb 20, 2006
  2. Comments4u

    Steve Guest

    Guenter Scholz wrote:


    Of course freezing water as a reference point is NOT folklore!!! Its
    one of the most accurately reproducible physical constants that can be
    created any time any where that a supply of ice is available. Boiling
    water is less accurate since atmospheric pressure skews it significantly
    more than the freezing point. That's grade-school science stuff, no
    great mystery.
     
    Steve, Feb 20, 2006
  3. Comments4u

    Steve Guest

    I think he was poking fun at the fact that a "2x4" has not been 2-inches
    by 4-inches since before WWII.

    Plywood numbers (thicknesses in particlar) ARE reasonably accurate. But
    go measure a "2x4" and tell me what you find... :)
     
    Steve, Feb 20, 2006
  4. Guess you must have dropped out after grade school. Freezing point is
    also variable depending on colligative properties and impurities in
    water.
     
    Martin Joseph, Feb 20, 2006
  5. Comments4u

    Steve Guest

    True, but for concentrations that pull the freezing point significantly
    far away from the freezing point of pure water, you can TASTE the
    difference. And distilled water or rainwater is plenty good. Tap water
    in many areas is good enough to get you very close.

    You can nit-pick and be a know-it-all all you want, but its still one of
    the easiest-to-reproduce physical constants that exists.
     
    Steve, Feb 20, 2006
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    Doug Guest

    Hell, if you're going to be precise in baking, you'd better measure your
    flour by weight and not volume. Of cource the vagarities in heat and
    humidity of the weather also wreak haovic to the precise baker.

    The complaint about the two bu fours belies a lack of carpentry
    experience. Hell, just get it framed, the sheet rock and mud will cover
    it anyway. And if you're making furniture, you wouldn't trust someone
    else to do your measuring for you.

    By show of hands, how many take a tape with you to Lowes/Home Depot?

    How many get their lumber for furniture projects from lowes/Home Depot/
    (insert whatever big box home improvement store here).

    Doug
     
    Doug, Feb 21, 2006
  7. -snip- irrelevant stuff
    I can just see it, imagine the supervisor and student exchange:

    supervisor: did you check the purity of the water in the flask beside the
    beaker of HCl
    student: crap, I thought the water was in the beaker

    cheers


    ps, little excercise for Steve: town is 590 miles away with a speed limit
    of 75 mph ..... how long does it take? well, 590/75 hr ... probably a
    instant answer is not forthcoming.
    Now imagine same town is quoted as 945 km away with a speed limit of
    100 kph ..... how long does it take? well, 945/100 ... instant answer
    of 9,45 hr. n'est ce pas? ... re duhh: pot, kettle black

    Lesson learned? there you go!
     
    Guenter Scholz, Feb 21, 2006
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    I always have a tape measure in my pocket. I find it pretty amusing
    how many people look at me like I've got two heads for carrying it,
    but the way they find out is they need to measure a table or something
    and are looking blankly at it trying to figure out what to do....
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Feb 21, 2006
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    If it were the 100 kph road, it's probably be 60 MPH, not 75. 600
    minutes, 10 hours.

    OTOH, if it were the 75 mph road, it would probably be 120 kph, not
    100. 945/120... probably not so instant, though after blinking once
    you'd realize it's almost 960/120 = 8 hours.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Feb 21, 2006
  10. sure, to a lot of people...... on the other hand, are you aware of
    the general level of arithmetic ability (I'm not talking math) out in the
    general population?


    cheers, guenter
     
    Guenter Scholz, Feb 21, 2006
  11. So you use distilled water - takes out 90+% of the already small
    variance.
     
    clare at snyder.on.ca, Feb 21, 2006
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    Steve Guest

    If that's your lesson, its a stupid lesson. Is it so hard to see the
    obvious fact that REGARDLESS of what system is selected, you can pick
    speed limits and/or distances that are "easy" to get quick answers. 100
    kph guarantees an easy answer, but so does 60 mph. THERE IS NO
    DIFFERENCE IN PRACTICAL TERMS!!!


    Besides, if you can go 590 miles OR 945 km at a constant speed with no
    stops, then you must be peeing in your shoes because *my* bladder sure
    aint that big.
     
    Steve, Feb 21, 2006
  13. 100 kph guarantees an easy answer, but so does 60 mph. THERE IS NO
    DIFFERENCE IN PRACTICAL TERMS!!!
    [/QUOTE]
    Steve, Bingo, that was what the original discussion was about.... "the
    easy answer" ... of course there is no practical difference. I guess
    the point of the original discussion can get easily lost in the to and fro


    best regards, guenter
     
    Guenter Scholz, Feb 21, 2006
  14. Comments4u

    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    Good point..
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Feb 21, 2006
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    wolfpuppy Guest

    If you lose your measuring cup, just remember that four Tablespoons is 1/4
    cup and, of course, two would be 1/8 cup.

    Damn, what a long thread.....
     
    wolfpuppy, Feb 21, 2006
  16. Comments4u

    wolfpuppy Guest

    Well, he's right about the baking, though. Baking does require more precise
    measures than does general cooking. When a recipe calls for a cup of flour,
    you scrape the cup with a knife so you have exactly one cup. I like making
    bread, too, but you can blow the recipe in a heartbeat if you disregard the
    proper measures.
     
    wolfpuppy, Feb 21, 2006
  17. Comments4u

    wolfpuppy Guest

    It all depends....are you driving a mercedes benz?
     
    wolfpuppy, Feb 21, 2006
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    DTJ Guest

    top posting corrected
    Not so, unless you are using one of those stupid bread machines or
    something. Hell a cake is far more critical than bread, and I don't
    EVER worry about getting the flour flat across the top, mainly because
    most of my measuring cups are 2-cups.

    When I first started baking from scratch, I tried to adhere to precise
    measurements, and had lots of failures. Now I don't worry about it
    and everything works fine. I think it is the analness that causes the
    problem.

    *************************
    Dave
     
    DTJ, Feb 22, 2006
  19. Comments4u

    Steve Guest

    If you are, factor in 4 hours in Gunter's Garage for every 1 hour on the
    road.
     
    Steve, Feb 22, 2006
  20. :) no kidding, feels like that sometimes with my mercedes'. On and
    about 250k km, seems to me from my experience, is when many items need to be
    repaired. Moreover, just can't bring myself to always go to the dealer.
     
    Guenter Scholz, Feb 22, 2006
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