Built like a Mercedes (?)

My barn is bigger than yours LOL. It can hold 15 articulated wagons with
40ft trailers at any one time.
And that's a fact.

You see two can play that game and you need to be sure that yours is
actually bigger to be sure of winning.

Huw

 

I'm sure your barn is bigger but I'm not intrerested in "winning" anything,
I'm just pointing out why I don't live in a city despite the distance
invoved.

 

I don't know what in Hell you think is so unique about your conditions. I

I think the point the OP made is that the UK would fit in the state
of Rhode Island or some such thing. Distances involved in the UK
and Europe are different than north america. What would be
a normal drive to say, go buy a table or chair here would in
Europe be the same as driving across 3 borders when it's the
same distance.

And while you may rack up high miles you are the exception
not the rule. I remember the day (ok I'm dating myself) when
Cardiff to Londo was a day trip. Now I go that far to buy crickets
for my kids lizard and think nothing of it.

 

A long distance for me is anything over 300 miles in a day. What is it for

Dialing 1 then area code before the number.

 

Then why mention the size or assume about driving distances. You cannot
generalise. I have friends who have holiday homes in the South of France and
they regularly drive both ways. I do not know how far that is and would not
presume to compare it with your mileage.

Huw

 

I am far from exceptional. I am not the old boy who just drives to the other
side of the village to fetch a paper but I would certainly not presume to be
anything like exceptional. For a start, most of my mileage is actually
within Wales.
If you actually travel 200 miles for the purpose you describe then you
really need to reassess life's priorities ;-)

Huw

 

Travel time from Pope and Danforth to Waterloo has likely doubled in
the last 10 years.

 

Actually, it has gone up over the last 10 years 20,000Km per year is
now considered to be low mileage. A 5 year old car with "only" 100,000
Km is a low mileage used car. Average 5 year old car on the lot here
has 150-180 thousand KMs on it.

 

Huw - you are missing the point. If you want to go for "records" try
1770 km in 18 hours - non stop. or 3521 KM in 42 hours in the dead of
winter - including an 8 hour rest stop. - for personal, not business
purposes.

We can do that here too, if we choose to.

For business purposes? Just to and from work MANY drive 56000 miles a
year. That's not "business miles". I know of lots of cars putting on
well in excess of 80,000 per year for business purposes, calling on
clients, or doing light delivery (courier service). Never leaving the
province of Ontario - or even Southern Ontario (south of, say Barrie)

 

Then why mention the size or assume about driving distances. You cannot

Because I've lived in the UK and I've lived in Canada and I've lived
in the US and know the difference. You?

A drive from London to Madrid is the same distance as Toronto to Atlanta.
Half as much again and you're in Florida. While I've known people that
have driven that for the wekend, that's no more the norm than a holiday
home in spain for most people.

Again, one can drive that distance and still be in Ontario. The scale
of how far you *routinly* travel is much much larger in North America
than Yurrup or the UK.

 

I am far from exceptional. I am not the old boy who just drives to the other

How?!?

What do you do, wake up, go to Ponty, with a circuitous route through the
Rhondda, back home, repeat? Did Wales anex Russia or something when I
wasn't looking?

I don't rememeber it being that big when I left. (looks at
map) no, it's still not much bigger than Toronto.

 

Travel time from Pope and Danforth to Waterloo has likely doubled in

Bloody 'ell. Mercifully Belleville to Toronto hasn't but you DO
have to pick your times. 3 am is good.

 

Driving from Waterloo Ontario to Prince Edward Island ( 1770 km) in
one day is a long trip. Or driving to Montreal and back (1286 Km). Or
driving to Winnipeg (2155 km) in 2 days. Heck, Waterloo to Windsor
and back in the same day (587km) is starting to get a bit tedious, but
is not a "long" trip. Waterloo to Banff in 2 days - that's a long
trip. Waterloo to Lakeland Florida? That's a long trip. But none are
terribly out of the ordinary for me in years past.
Vic Falls Zambia to Luapula Province Zambia? now THAT IS a long trip,
even spread over 3 days. Particularly in the rainy season. Worse
conditions than what I generally encounter here in Canada.
However,Even 170 Km from Wiarton to Waterloo is a long trip when
there's a good foot of snow on the road surface, and you can't see 500
feet in front of you like the trip this weekend!!!Shovelling the car
(NOT a 4wd) out of snow banks just makes the trip longer.

300 miles a day, in decent weather???? Naa, that's not a long trip at
all.

 

Fuel use comparison for train vs trucks, buses and motor cars.

http://www.transwatch.co.uk/transport-fact-sheet-5.htm


The index for all fact sheets can be found here.
http://www.transwatch.co.uk/fact-sheets.htm

A nice accurate summary can be found here
http://www.spiked-online.com/articles/0000000CAF2C.htm

Huw

 

I have seen your average mileage quoted and there is not much difference.
Average doesn't mean much in either place except as a measure of the hours
spent behind the wheel in various locations and despite your protestations
there is not a whole lot of difference.
It is interesting to note the psyche that *needs* to believe that 'mine is
bigger/better/longer/further than yours'.

Huw

 

Hint, my business mileage is about 500 miles per week, which I don't
consider much. Today I did Aberystwyth to Dale [15 miles southwest of
Haverfordwest] which was about 175 miles total round, with a 16ft trailer
and two tons on it for half the journey. Started at 1pm and back for 6pm.
Tomorrow at some point I will hit Brecon.
My daily drive is a Toyota Land Cruiser 4.2.

Huw

 

No it is you that is missing the point. I don't consider my mileage to be
particularly out of the ordinary. It is you that makes that kind of claim,
repeated above. "Bigger/better/longer" remember?

Huw

 

And that's only about 150 miles further than Orange, Texas to El Paso,
Texas, travelling Interstate 10 all the way.

 

clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:

..

300 miles is taking it easy and seeing the roadside attractions. We used
to run 500 miles/day towing a travel trailer on vacation, circa 1975.

 

Bigger, better AND further eh.

Huw