Built like a Mercedes (?)

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Comments4u, Jan 29, 2006.

  1. Comments4u

    Thom Guest

    I know they do, EXCEPT automotive industry workers. Their world is
    much different. Pretty much an act of God is required to get people to
    accept personal responsibility, and they do NOT pay for skill and
    competency./ The workers with the most time in service must die or
    retire, you can get rid of them (like gum on your shoe in an Arizona
    Summer)
     
    Thom, Feb 1, 2006
  2. Pardon? I said Haiti and Burkina are two of the poorest countries in
    the world. Where am I wrong???
    I've been to Burkina. I don't need to go to Haiti.
     
    clare at snyder.on.ca, Feb 1, 2006

  3. Who aid I got the shaft?? MY choice to stop working for idiots. MY
    choice to do without benefits. I had the benefits while the kids were
    young, and now I have some again since my wife has gotten benefits at
    her work.
     
    clare at snyder.on.ca, Feb 1, 2006
  4. OK serious answer: It's todo with mixing quotes and replies, which can
    be very effective.

    ---
    I reply to this statement.
    I reply to this part.
    ---

    This way I don't have to quote the whole post, but just the sections
    that I'm replying to. You can also very easily tell what I'm replying
    to. Whan someone else continues this thread and quotes in the same way
    the message is extended and still remains coherent even if you don't
    read all the previous messages.

    This is why, on Usenet, this has always been the way to do discussions.
    That is, until the 'net was flooded with newbies, who didn't really care
    about traditions and wanted to do things like they do in the mail.

    Read the following for a better explanation:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting

    Mixing top and bottom posting sucks (a bit like driving on both sides of
    the streets), so why not stick to the tradition for a change?

    Ximinez
     
    The Spanish Inquisition, Feb 1, 2006
  5. No, and that's why it's not just top-posting that's annoying, but bottom
    posting and not editing away superfluous material is at least as bad. A
    badly edited bottom-post-thread can be very annoying to read. So cut
    away access fat and create a post that is readable be itself. Like I
    tried to make this one.

    Ximinez
     
    The Spanish Inquisition, Feb 1, 2006
  6. No he's right. It's a matter of intelligence and efficiency. Anyone
    smart enough to see what works and what doesn't can see why top posting
    sucks in multi-user discussion threads.

    He's just not very nice about it, but I understand his frustration.

    Ximinez
     
    The Spanish Inquisition, Feb 1, 2006
  7. Comments4u

    Huw Guest

    Things have changed a bit since 1969 though. At least, they have over here
    :)
    Most manufacturers specify exactly the same oil up to 12000 miles as is the
    minimum US standard. That is API SL. It is a standard which is current and
    set by the *American* petroleum institute.
    For goodness' sake, back in 1984 I was running UK built cars with 12,000
    mile/1year oil change intervals on high sulphur fuel and far inferior oil to
    SL, I think it could have been API SF but I'm not sure. I had a VW Golf GTi
    1.8 back in 1982 which had 10,000 mile intervals on the standard of the
    time. It was still running last I heard, which was a while ago, with around
    180,000 miles on it.

    Yes, from 12000 miles up a better oil is usually specified. So what? Many
    people choose to use a better oil in any case. Long drain oils are
    increasingly common and are now almost the standard oils for diesel engines.
    Witness API CH4 which is equivilent to ACEA E3 or E5 or what used to be
    called 45000km super high performance oil.

    Oil is not rocket science for the consumer. One just uses the oil standard
    and viscosity as specified by the car manufacturer. It's that simple.


    Huw
     
    Huw, Feb 1, 2006
  8. Comments4u

    Steve Guest

    But a '69 engine under thouse conditions shouldn't have inordinately
    fouled the oil. *MY* '66 and '69 Chrysler engines go for 7000 miles
    between changes, and hard running is easier on the oil than loafing. If
    his slant-6 really did foul its oil that badly on one trim, then the
    engine had some other problem- broken ring, dead PCV system, blown head
    gasket, who knows what. But it had a problem that caused the dirty oil.
     
    Steve, Feb 1, 2006
  9. Comments4u

    Max Dodge Guest

    What is An F450 Super Duty rated at Max? You can take one off the
    Perhaps you can, but its not classed as a pickup at that level. From there
    on up to 24k or so, its medium duty. Pickups are light duty. Both the
    government and the manufacturers make this distinction.
    Thanks for confirming what I felt was the case, most pickups in Europe are
    very light weight.

    --
    Max

    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
     
    Max Dodge, Feb 1, 2006
  10. Comments4u

    Huw Guest

    I'm inclined to agree with you but I don't know those engines. I do remember
    Ford Escort engines of that period which did need 4500 mile oil changes
    because by 6000 miles the oil was basically f****d. Mind you, the engines
    generally didn't last more than 100,000 back then without a rebuild as I
    remember it, no matter how often the oil was changed.
    There are still plenty of rebuilt Escorts of that age running around here of
    that vintage. My nephew works with a specialist company that just rebuild
    them for enthusiasts, or "sad gits" as I call them.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Feb 1, 2006
  11. Comments4u

    Max Dodge Guest

    As indeed they are in many Cities.
    So you admit you've been full of dung during these posts?

    --
    Max

    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
     
    Max Dodge, Feb 1, 2006
  12. Comments4u

    Max Dodge Guest

    They only work efficiently when travelling from city to city and over long
    False, light rail transit in urban centers is not long distance, nor is it
    city to city, yet it is still efficient.

    As to the branch line, you'll find upon doing some research, that many of
    the "abandoned" branch lines have been bought up by smaller corporations and
    now run rail service efficiently and at a profit.

    --
    Max

    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author)


     
    Max Dodge, Feb 1, 2006
  13. Comments4u

    Max Dodge Guest

    the only limit is how many trains
    I hope you have a spcific figure in mind when claiming "not many".

    Apparently you know very little about American railroads.


    --
    Max

    "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
    soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
    -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
     
    Max Dodge, Feb 1, 2006
  14. Comments4u

    Huw Guest

    Confirm all you like but the fact remains that most European pickups have a
    one metric ton payload. Even the huge numbers of extended or king cabs on
    the road today have a one ton payload or near enough. I run some and am in
    daily contact with many customers who run almost every non American brand
    under the sun, and Ford.
    The Ford/Mazda one tonner is built........ is it in Malaysia? No. Singapore?
    Maybe, but somewhere in that general region in a factory jointly owned by
    the two corps. Thailand perhaps.

    http://www.carpages.co.uk/isuzu/isuzu_rodeo_pickup_part_1_22_10_03.asp?switched=on&echo=993123965

    http://www.best4vans.co.uk/vandetails-482.html

    http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/car-reviews/car-and-driving/mitsubishi-l200-2002298.html
    a new version of the L200 has recently been launched

    This is the extremely ugly new one
    http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/premiere/2714/mitsubishi_l200.html


    http://www.ford.co.uk/ie/ranger/-/-

    The bestselling Land Rover. The short wheelbase pickup and van is the best
    seller in the range in the UK but worldwide the 110inch wheelbase is by far
    the best seller, including the rest of Europe. Not that this variant is not
    a good seller in the UK either.
    http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/Vehicles/Defender/Towing_and_carrying.htm

    What are the others in the market? Hmm. The Toyota Hilux which launched a
    new model back in June. This is an ugly son-of-a-bitch too. It is also
    underpowered in comparison with its contemporaries.
    Try www.toyota.co.uk then find the tab for hilux across the top of the page.

    Please let me know of any small pickups that sell in any volume apart from
    the slow selling VW Caddy which themselves are a rare sight on our roads. I
    know of only one relitively new one in the area, and that is over 5 years
    old, and that belongs to an employee of mine.

    Huw



    Huw
     
    Huw, Feb 1, 2006
  15. Comments4u

    Huw Guest

    No. You know that we have been talking of main line trains or locomotives
    not subway trains. But if you feel that you are vindicated that is fine by
    me. It fools no-one though.
    If trains were as efficient as you claim then they would be competitive. In
    general they are not financially competitive or flexible for various reasons
    that I and others have listed. In certain circumstances they are efficient
    and these limited circumstances have also been listed and acknowledged.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Feb 1, 2006
  16. Comments4u

    Huw Guest

    I know that it little used by travellers and mainly used by bulk cargo such
    as chemicals and raw materials and metals.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Feb 1, 2006
  17. Comments4u

    DTJ Guest

    Regularly. As in frequently. Not, oh once a week or so.
    Sure, as long as the Taurus is running on 30 year old spark plugs,
    with 2 cycle gas instead of regular, and towing a 40,000 boat behind
    it.

    A neighbor of mine just got rid of his truck, F150, which NEVER got
    better than 8MPG. EVER. If you think ANY CAR averages less than 8MPG
    you need to get a clue.

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    Dave
     
    DTJ, Feb 1, 2006
  18. Comments4u

    DTJ Guest

    Yes, which is why unions are bad.
    Suer, but how would that occur.

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    Dave
     
    DTJ, Feb 1, 2006
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    DTJ Guest


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    Dave
     
    DTJ, Feb 1, 2006
  20. Comments4u

    DTJ Guest

    No, you said they are two of the poorest countries in the world and
    the most prosperous.

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    Dave
     
    DTJ, Feb 1, 2006
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