Built like a Mercedes (?)

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Comments4u, Jan 29, 2006.

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    Huw Guest

    The oil would variously be hardly used. Only two cold starts and running at
    operating temperature for long distance. No problem. Do you think an engine
    tires and needs a rest stop? No. It is not flesh and blood.
    You are likely talking of no more than 4500 miles for that journey.



    You would not want to do that 2 or 3 times on
    I really don't see why not.


    API SL is API SL whether you are in Canada or Europe or even America.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Feb 1, 2006
  2. Comments4u

    Huw Guest

    It is increasingly common to ignore European cars for 15000 to 30,000 miles
    at a time.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Feb 1, 2006
  3. Comments4u

    Huw Guest

    As indeed they are in many Cities.
    Subway or underground trains are an excellent example of the way trains can
    and are used to carry passengers efficiently.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Feb 1, 2006
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    Huw Guest

    They only work efficiently when travelling from city to city and over long
    distances. Even then they struggle to be competitive with cars financially
    even though [here] their fuel is a tenth of the price of road fuel and they
    recieve huge subsidies on top to keep running. All the branch lines that
    were not remotely economic which served the smaller towns and villages were
    dismantled in the 1960's.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Feb 1, 2006
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    Huw Guest

    And that is not many. Another inefficiency.


    Huw
     
    Huw, Feb 1, 2006
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    Huw Guest

    Your lack of logic is astounding.


    These are not flexible. Yet another inefficiency.

    Huw
     
    Huw, Feb 1, 2006
  7. Dave, alternate history discussions get even better with some beer :)

    cheers, guenter

    ps Canadian ... not german
     
    Guenter Scholz, Feb 1, 2006
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    Budd Cochran Guest

    Then you didn't see the core of America where our systems get raked over the
    coals continually. We criticize ourselves enough, we need no help from
    armchair politicians.

    Btw, one right we do have is the right to be offended . . . .by those that
    decide they know our system better than we do. You don't live here so all
    your knowledge is from hearsay, not experience.

    Budd
     
    Budd Cochran, Feb 1, 2006
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    Steve Guest

    Pooh Bear wrote:

    The Allison V-1710 was (and is) an excellent engine. What the Merlin had
    that the Allison never did was a superior mechanical supercharger and
    aftercooler. Credit for that goes to ONE British engineer- "Doc" Hooker,
    who later played a key role in the design of numerous Bristol and then
    Rolls-Royce turbine engines including teh Olympus (Concorde, Vulcan) and
    RB.211 (TriStar, 747, 757, 777, etc.) The Merlin supercharger is about
    two times the size (physically) and far more advanced in turbin/stator
    design than the Allison unit. The Allison did fine when its mechanical
    supercharger was augmented by a turbocharger, as in the P-38 Lightning.
    But the availability of turbochargers at the time was very limited. All
    the B-17s and B-24s HAD to have them, and the P-38 and P-47 were already
    getting them, and production was maxed out. When the Mustang came along,
    it was arbitrarily decided that it would NOT be turbocharged because of
    the limited availability of turbochargers, so it had to limp along with
    essentially the same powerplant configuration as the much older P-40.

    The Allison actually has a number of design advantages over the Merlin
    when it comes down to strictly the piston engine part of the design. The
    Allison has much stronger connecting rods, a stronger crankshaft, and a
    more rigid crankcase. Its also got much simpler accessory drives more
    like the Rolls Royce Griffon than like the Merlin, which was something
    of a kludge with drives hanging off all sorts of strange places- some
    off the supercharger gear case, some of the cam drives, etc.

    In recent years, the most successful "Merlins" in air racing are
    actually hybrids built from post-war "transport" Merlin blocks, Allison
    connecting rods with custom bearings, and -9 Merlin superchargers.
     
    Steve, Feb 1, 2006
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    TBone Guest

    Slave labor only works when the slaves understand what you want them to do,
    IOW, German speaking.
     
    TBone, Feb 1, 2006
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    TBone Guest

    So let me understand this, because you got the shaft for most of your
    working career, so should everyone else?
     
    TBone, Feb 1, 2006
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    Pooh Bear Guest

    I should have said 'poor performance' of the Allison engine.

    Thanks for your interesting post.

    Graham
     
    Pooh Bear, Feb 1, 2006
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    Pooh Bear Guest

    What makes you think that all Nazi slave labourers spoke German ?

    Graham
     
    Pooh Bear, Feb 1, 2006
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    Alan LeHun Guest

    I don't think it's confined to Europeans. There are dickheads on both
    sides of the pond. Fortunately, it usually isn't too difficult to work
    out who is worth reading and who isn't.
     
    Alan LeHun, Feb 1, 2006
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    Thom Guest

    The real question is, would the Aouto workers in the US be more
    motivated to produce quality assembly and practices if they knew that
    poor quality=poor job performance?? That way they can be like everyone
    else in the world. Work good, pay good, work bad, FIRED!!!!

    Not to mention, I bet US car prices would fall if workers were paid for
    experience and quality, instead of position and tenure.
     
    Thom, Feb 1, 2006
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    Alan LeHun Guest

    Were it not for America, Europe would probably be made up of Soviet
    Republics and god knows what would have happened post European War.

    Were it not for America and the Battle of Britain, Germany would have
    had the Atomic bomb 18 months before America, and the Third Reich would
    currently be looking at the new millennia with renewed confidence.

    Were it not for Europe, America would still be almost entirely populated
    by indigenous Indians.

    Anyone can play this game.
     
    Alan LeHun, Feb 1, 2006
  17. dont think that manufacturing jobs in the us dont work exactly like that.
    and i speak from experiance ive seen it happen more than once in the plant i
    work in. granted we are not auto assembly but manufacturing is
    manufacturing.

    -chris proud highspeed manufacturing tech
     
    Christopher Thompson, Feb 1, 2006
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    theguy Guest


    i think you got it right. that seems to be how many (too many) people
    feel.
     
    theguy, Feb 1, 2006
  19. They have finally figured out how to re-smelt steel instead of just
    heating it up and re-rolling it, which , from the results, appears to
    be about all they did in the seventies.
    Todays quality steels can contain large proportions of remelted scrap.
     
    clare at snyder.on.ca, Feb 1, 2006
  20. Well, I saw the oil when I drained it from that 1969 Dart slant six.
    It had run wide open, over 100mph for several hours of that trip. It
    did stop once for a few hours at -40F to wait for the pass to be blown
    out. The oil was in a vey grungy condition when drained. Worse than I
    have ever had oil on my vehicles appear in 40 years.
    Get out from under your rock. The oils specified by the european
    manufacturers for their engines in europe are NOT the same oil we buy
    here in North America. Particularly when talking the high end models.
     
    clare at snyder.on.ca, Feb 1, 2006
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