Built like a Mercedes (?)

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Comments4u, Jan 29, 2006.

  1. Comments4u

    Bill Putney Guest

    Ahh - kind of like saying two clusters of grapes.

    Bill Putney
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    Bill Putney, Feb 1, 2006
  2. are you suggesting, by any chance, that the Russians were not "THE"
    desicive criteria in winning WW2 for the allies? Yes, the US supplied arms
    etc etc but, come on, give credit where credit is due. It happend over 2
    generations ago and objectivity should start to prevail. I will grant you,
    though, that it was the US presence in Europe near the end of the war that
    prevented Europe from going compeltely to the Russians..... and that, as I
    indicated below, is probably one of the main reasons for their presence.....
    to contain the Russians. Patton probably had the right idea.... too bad.
    no, I try, see above.
    what's the point with the moron? You do yourself little service. Are
    you unaware that the 'major' part of the war was fought in the east? So
    you are suggesting that Germany wanted to take on the Russians AND launch
    an invasion of England which meant facing the RN?? Are you serious? Why
    do you think nothing happend after Dunkirk... Barbarossa was on the agenda
    I suggest to you that the 'fact' that Barbarossa happend and that the
    Royal Navy existed DOES put an end to speculation of invading England. More
    worthwhile would be to speculate that Germany might have been putting some
    pressure on England via the Luftwaffe to try and reach an 'accomodation' with
    England - ie Churchill. You should read a well research book on Admiral
    Cannaris.... intresting figure for the Abwehr.

    well, why not inform us of your ideas....


    cheers
     
    Guenter Scholz, Feb 1, 2006
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    Pooh Bear Guest

    The Mustang prototype didn't fly until 26 Oct 1940 by which time the 'Battle of
    Britain' targeting the destruction of the RAF had been won. The Luftwaffe
    changed its tactics to bombing London - 'The Blitz' after 7 Sep 1940.

    " The plane first flew on 26 October 1940 "
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-51_Mustang

    A few US volunteers did play a part though.

    " American contribution - The RAF recognises 7 Americans as having taken part in
    the Battle of Britain "
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Of_britain

    Graham
     
    Pooh Bear, Feb 1, 2006
  4. Just curious: what, exactly, is a top-poster abusing?

    DAS

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    Dori A Schmetterling, Feb 1, 2006
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    Pooh Bear Guest

    A huge debt is also owed to those who had the foresight not just to research radar
    but to actually implement the world's first integrated air defence system, luckily
    completed before hostilities began.

    The following nationalities also flew with the RAF or Fleet Air Arm during the
    battle

    Polish 139
    New Zealander 98
    Canadian 86
    Czechoslovakian 84
    Belgian 29
    Australian 21
    South African 20
    French 13
    Irish 10
    Unknown 8
    American 7
    Jamaican 1
    Palestinian (Jewish) 1
    Southern Rhodesian 1

    Graham
     
    Pooh Bear, Feb 1, 2006
  6. And he can block me too. It might reduce his posts, which have been mostly
    anger-driven, abusive drivel.

    DAS

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    Dori A Schmetterling, Feb 1, 2006
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    Bill Putney Guest

    I would believe that it was nothing more than a commercial transaction
    if the same type of "commercial transactions" were being openly
    consumated with Germany at the same time. As if our government and
    industry were saying among themselves "Hey guys - we have all this
    industrial and military output - we can sell it to the highest bidder.
    The Brits say they will pay top dollar for it. Call up Adolf and see if
    he will counter. Tell him that whichever side comes up with the best
    offer by 2 o'clok this coming Tuesday gets the goods". Simply a
    commercial transaction my foot.

    Bill Putney
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    Bill Putney, Feb 1, 2006
  8. I have followed your ping-pong with Pooh Bear but I am not clear about the
    relevance of an Atlantic Crossing. Last time I did it it took no more than
    7 h.

    And it took only 11 h to cross that ocean and even cross the American
    continent to get to LA. It even takes up to an hour less going the other
    way.

    DAS

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    Dori A Schmetterling, Feb 1, 2006
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Were not the Czech Republic and Slovakia two separate entities at that time?

    Bill Putney
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    Bill Putney, Feb 1, 2006
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    Pooh Bear Guest

    Not in concert at all. The USA gave little priority to radar since for example
    it felt there was no direct air raid threat. There were simply a few
    'demonstration' US radars by late 1940.
    Believe what you like.

    It's a simple fact that the Tizard Mission energised US war technology
    thinking. One direct consequence of the Tizard Mission was the foundation of
    the Radiation Laboratory at M.I.T.


    Graham
     
    Pooh Bear, Feb 1, 2006
  11. What you don't appear to accept is the premise that there is a role for
    rail, but only one limited to certain circumstances. It is not a panacea.
    If it were then all the lines that have been closed would not have been.
    Britain, Germany (did you research why all the convenient factory railheads
    were closed?)

    You talk about energy efficiency, but the approach you have used does not
    appear to take on board the real world, and we are back to my example of
    freight from Butte to Rochester, which I do not think you have yet
    addressed.

    DAS

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    Dori A Schmetterling, Feb 1, 2006
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    Pooh Bear Guest

    Commercial transactions often include some element of choice.

    Graham
     
    Pooh Bear, Feb 1, 2006
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    theguy Guest


    good point.
     
    theguy, Feb 1, 2006
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    Pooh Bear Guest

    You seem perhaps not to be aware that the Germans saw themselves as the 'Master
    Race'.

    They didn't want everyone to speak German.

    As for your apparent inability to say what you mean and merely allude to it - I
    think you ought to take a course in straight talking. If you choose to speak
    in riddles then it's no surprise that it'll likely be misconstrued.

    Graham
     
    Pooh Bear, Feb 1, 2006
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    theguy Guest


    i don't think he is! scary isn't it? i think pooh bear might be
    having a little trouble with his meds.
     
    theguy, Feb 1, 2006
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    theguy Guest

    oh come on now pooh bear. don't get our hopes up.
     
    theguy, Feb 1, 2006
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    theguy Guest

    what fucking part of america did you visit? from what you just wrote
    i think that you must have stopped overnight at the greyhound depot in
    butte montana and read the readers digest. get a grip pal. how wrong
    can you possibly be?
     
    theguy, Feb 1, 2006
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    Pooh Bear Guest

    Constructive criticism is no bad thing though.

    I concur with your view though. It seems as if any mere hint that one might think
    America isn't *perfect* results in a hostile over-reaction from the colonists. Yet
    the Yanks seem to think it's their place to criticise everyone else !

    A style of reaction to criticism that has much in common with Islamists in fact !

    Graham
     
    Pooh Bear, Feb 1, 2006
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    Pooh Bear Guest

    The Germans considered themselves superior to most other races or
    nationalities.

    They simply didn't want 'the scum' to be able to talk ( understand ) their
    language.

    Graham
     
    Pooh Bear, Feb 1, 2006
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    theguy Guest


    geez. you still didn't answer his question pooh baby. how do you
    know this? i mean, did you read it in the comics? man, you are an
    incredibly boring example of english bs. i mean, what a great example
    of arrogance and idiocy all rolled into one. i appreciate your
    joining the discussion. i was starting to worry about america. i now
    see that we are in pretty good shape. after all, we don't have you!

    thank you so very much.
     
    theguy, Feb 1, 2006
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