Built like a Mercedes (?)

How do you know?

 

Even if we were exactly that, the fact is America does rule. Like others
have said, if we closed our borders, the rest of you would die, like it or
not.

 

It is noteworthy that you have changed from comparing passenger carrying

It is further noteworthy that if passenger rail were used as extensively as
it could be, the terminals would be as you suggest, in residential, work,
shopping and entertainment centers.

--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

 

You have lost the passenger arguement and are attempting to change the

False. You lost the argument when you claimed to have "plonked" me.
Passenger rail and freight rail are on the same level of efficiency. Your
difficulty is in seeing that BOTH need to have well planned routes and
stations, not just freight.

--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

 

If rail is no less expensive that truck haulage for heavy commodities it

In the States, this depends on routes and rates of the various companies,
both rail and truck. If proper planning is put forth, rail is more
efficient, and could be used as a long term solution to an energy shortage.
What Huw refuses to believe is that not only can frieght and passengers be
carried with equal efficiency, but that rail can be used effectively in the
big picture. Somehow, all the people who claim rail won't work are set on
keeping rail exactly as it is. Certainly that won't work long term, and the
railroads know it. Thus they are making changes and investing money to take
advantage of their efficiency.

The only difficult thing here is opening ones mind to see possibilitites,
rather than assumptions.

--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

 

It is noteworthy that you have changed from comparing passenger carrying

It is further noteworthy that if passenger rail were used as extensively as
it could be, the terminals would be as you suggest, in residential, work,
shopping and entertainment centers.

--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

 

Chain home was built without any US technology or knowhow. Indeed, it's
operations were an official secret, which were not shared with the US.

In 1940, the cavity magnetron was invented at Birmingham (uk)
University. Churchill, realising that Britain simply didn't have the
resources to develop this technology or any of the other emerging
technologies, was eventually persuaded that the US be allowed unfettered
access to all the undeveloped technologies that Britain had that could
be used in the war against Germany, in return for access to the US's
developments of them.

The magnetron (along with details of the the Chain Home system, the Jet
engine and numerous other things) were taken to America in September
1940. It was described as being a thousand times more powerful than any
American transmitter and also as being "the most valuable cargo ever
brought to our shores". Google for the "Tizard Mission"

Us Brits can still be proud that before WWII, we were the most
technologically innovative country in the world. Oh, how times change...


Ahh. A wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizard_Mission

 

Then you can plonk me because I top post because I find it more convenient.

Budd

 

And you thought I was bad . . . . .

Budd

 

What ? Britain already had a working radar air defence system before WW2
started.

The most practical innovation for radars during this period was the resonant
cavity magnetron, invented in the UK.

Please give some example of your assertion.

Graham

 

Die of laughter perhaps !

Graham

 

No, it shows, he, like myself, live in a country that believes in personal
freedoms over government restrictions.

Like freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to bear arms . . . But
I also believe in gun control . . .my personal best score with an M-16A1 is
297 out of 300 rounds fired.

Sounds like you are perfect for a socialist monarchy like the UK . . .a
willing and well trained Pavlov's dog.

Hey, if it makes you feel more comfortable to have the government make all
your decisions then so be it, but I prefer to make my own choices and prefer
to live where I can do so legally.

PLONK.

Budd

 

Aw, gee, could that be partly because the British government thought they
could handle it alone?

Really? What about all the equipment the US supplied the British forces,
like the Mustang fighter plane

Gee, without American equipment, soldiers, supplies how far would they havce
gotten???

No, you are simply misinformed.

Budd

 

Actually, in my visits to the states I have found an oppression that is
simply not seen in Europe. It comes not from the Government but from the
people themselves and the media.

Criticise democracy, or the American dream, or anything that culturally
identifies America, and you face being completely ostracised by your
peers. Americans just don't seem able, or willing, to criticise
themselves to any significant degree.

Of course, on this side of the pond we sometimes appear to actively
encourage it which doesn't seem too smart to me either.

 

Not to mention the extremely racist comment from one that pretends to be
intellectually superior to you or I.

Budd

 

The P-51 did not make it over in any real numbers until 1943. Battle
of Britain was Summer 1940. It was almost exclusively a Brit on German
air war. In fact, it was a near thing. Without radar and very high
aircraft factory output, Britain would probably been invaded, and most
likely would have been completely overrun in a few weeks.

We owe our successes in WW2 to those few who stood off the German air
assault in 1940.

So, "Budd", stop showing your ass, and learn some history.

E.P.

 

*** There weren't any Mustangs around during the Battle of Britain ***.

The main RAF fighter at that time was the Hurricane but the Spitfire got most of
the limelight.

When those Mustangs did finally arrive they simply didn't perform as well as the
British fighters due to the poor Allison engine. It was the RAF that had the
bright idea of putting a Rolls Royce Merlin in one - and production was the
switched to use US 'license built' Merlins after which it did rather better.

Those Mustangs were *ordered* by the RAF btw on a commercial contract to boost
aircraft production .The USA didn't just give them away. In fact the Mustang
only ever existed on account of that RAF order, it would never even have been
designed otherwise.

Graham

 

Yeah - I can see him in a staff meeting saying in the late 30's: "We are
going to delay the war. Our very first step will be to get everyone in
Europe speaking German - we'll simply ask everyone to comply with that
request, and they will do so gladly. Then, once that is accomplished,
we will take our army and start the war to defeat everyone. But not
until we first have tehm all speaking German."

You are quite the idiot. And dishonest too, pretending like you didn't
know what was meant by "...we managed to prevent all of Europe from
speaking German". But I find that, peculiarly, dishonesty and idiocy go
hand in hand.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

 

Certainly not once Churchill got in power.

The battle of Britain was in 1940. Britain got it's first P51 in 1942.
Your logic appears flawed.

Prior to the Battle of Britain, US aid was confined mostly to food, oil
and raw materials, notably steel.

Probably just North and Central France and probably a year or two later.
The USSR, have taken all the land east of the German west border and all
the Mediterranean coastal land would probably have bullied us into
handing it over.

 

All of which confirms my assertion that our nations were at work on these
things together prior to WWII, unlike what some others seem to believe.

--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)