Built like a Mercedes (?)

Actually neither.

Japan declared war on the USA followed by Germany.

The USA had no choice. It was dragged into the war by the Axis powers.

Graham

 

Actually, I've heard that plenty of US servicemen are totally pissed of with
being in a country that doesn't even want them there - never mind the
likelihood of being killed for their trouble.

Graham

 

To be fair, Hitler did have a notional 'Operation Sea Lion' but it was pretty
half-assed and based on invading England using converted Dutch barges.

It would have been shelled straight out of the water by the Royal Navy, so in order
to make it credible the Luftwaffe would have needed air superiority ( possible the
first occasion such a concept ever came into play ) to keep the RN at bay.

The subsequent 'Battle of Britain' was the Luftwaffe's attempt to gain said air
superiority and they lost.

Graham

 

Half ton eh? I don't think there are many pick-ups sold in Europe with a
grunt grunt guffaw!
now my nose is cleared, bull shit!

1/4-1/2 ton pickups in town regularly move people, carry construction
supplies, are used for small businesses and often have better mileage than
cars. 3/4-1 ton frequently tow boats, trailers carrying 4x4's, skidoos,
boats.
in the rural areas, only poor locals do not have at least one truck,
regardless of age -- if we didn't have them, we would lose our suspension in
a hurry, and would pay a fortune to have wood delivered, not to mention
loading the box with propane tanks, maybe oxygen and acetelyne tanks, gas
containers for gasoline, chain saw oil, diesel, and groceries, since a trip
to town can be expensive so it's not done frequently, not to mention dog
food -- 80 kg a month for most large dogs of which two is a good idea for
security.

need i mention that most people who drive trucks are very handy? they can
usually build their own decks, fences, sheds, patch their roofs, fix most
things, have automobile basic skills, if not outright specialists in at
least one of framing, foundations, general construction, electricity,
plumbing (installing septic systems, wells, sump pumps, holding tanks,
systerns, underground lines to the outbuildings), fixing heavy machinery,
logging, milling, farming, automotive, welding, hydraulics (for homemade
wood splitters etc.,) small motor repairs ... the list goes on. how could we
do all this without a pickup?

most of us lead very busy lives (thread about work hours as compared to many
countries) whether urban or rural and welcome is the day when the bed only
contains fishing tackle, tent, camping supplies and clothing and maybe a
shot gun or two!

rach

 

As for the roads - well until you've driven through a few Indian pot-holes

You haven't seen Pennsylvania highways, have you?

--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

 

My last UK Vauxhall Cavalier lasted 180,000 miles and 16 yrs without any

And you are daft if you think the parts for these cars simply skip over the
ocean free of charge.

--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

 

That is *not* 'entering the European theatre' as you claimed.

Rubbish. Entering any area where military operations are conducted, whether
for war or training, is called a theatre. entering that area puts you in
that theatre.

No shit Sherlock, thats why its called a "theory".
--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

 

Obviously you don't send *perishable goods* by a method that's unsuitable.

How many goods fall into that category anyway ?

Graham

 

First off, Lend Lease was signed March 11 1941.

No one claimed it was. But it certainly is entering a theatre of war.

--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

 

not in the least required for older motors
rach

 

Actually neither.

Which consigns to oblivion the efforts of one Winston Churchill.

Perhaps you should do more reading and less blurting.

--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

 

Actually, I've heard that plenty of US servicemen are totally pissed of

Which proves my point that it depends on who is doing the reporting, now
doesn't it?

--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

 

you do realize, that some might say with some justification considering
the oil politics/embargo's the US was 'forcing' onto Japan.

kind of like 'dragging' an elephant into bed with you.... Surely you
must have read 'some' accounts outlining how the white house was itching to
get into the war at all cost, almost.

cheers

 

Yet simply looking at the post would have told you that I didn't say that.
No schooling needed.

Yeah, we had nothing to do with supplying the Russians, nor with that second
front that allowed the Russians to advance.

LOL, or the British who, its been pointed out, are ALSO there.

Other than the plans that Hitler had laid out, not a damn thing! Back to
your education!

But it sure makes one hell of a battle of attrition.
--
Max

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)

 

That's simply a commercial transaction.

NO.

At that time British radar used no US parts. In fact it was Britain that 'gave'
the design of the critical resonant cavity magnetron to the USA ! See 'Tizard
Mission'. Along with the jet engine too later I might add.

US radars were almost non-existent in 1941. Certainly no airborne ones and I
don't think there were any operational naval ones either.

A commercial situation too. In any event, no significant numbers of US planes
arrived in the UK until well after Pearl Harbor.

You're suggesting that we needed US leadership. STFU ! Britain had already
survived being in the front line for several years before you guys could even
drag your lardy asses over here.

I think you need to read up on some honest history.

Graham

 

And you haven't seen even the roads in Bombay - never mind their 'highways'
outside of cities.

Graham

 

What ocean ? You don't seem to have a point. I said it needed very few
replacement parts. Those parts that were replaced didn't have to come over any
oceans. All the important stuff kept working.

Can you not cope with the idea that a European car can run for 16 yrs/180,000
mls and not even need many bits replaced ?

Graham

 

A commercial agreement isn't going to war.

Graham

 

I'm stating facts.

You have nothing other than speculation. I *know* that Roosevelt was
sympathetic but his hands were tied by US opinion.

Graham

 

You prefer Fox News do you ?

There's little difference in objective reporting *outside* the US.

Fine - stick with your 'gung-ho' attitude and see where it gets you. It's a
damn bloody mess.

Graham