building super duper 2.2 turbo engine

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by acannell, Nov 14, 2006.

  1. acannell

    acannell Guest

    I've got a 1986 2.2 Turbo 1 engine in a lebaron and I want to turn the
    boost way up and put out 400+ hp. Here is my plan:

    Get a 1989+ 2.5l non turbo throttle body injection common block to
    replace the weak 1986 turbo 1 common block
    Drill the necessary holes in the block for the turbo coolant and oil
    lines. Cover the balance shaft holes.
    Swap the weak 1986 2.2 turbo 1 connecting rods for stronger ones
    Change the pistons (is this needed? and if so, to what?)
    Install bigger injectors and a rising rate adjustable fuel pressure
    regulator
    Turn up the turbo boost using one or many of various methods
    Install a gigantic intercooler
    Use the existing 1986 turbo 1 head (is this okay?)

    So, my questions are, can I take any old 2.5L 1989+ throttle body
    injection non-turbo common block + crankshaft from a salvage yard and
    put my 1986 2.2l turbo 1 head on it? Will that work? What pistons do I
    need to use? I will get the connecting rods from fwdperformance or
    forward motion.
     
    acannell, Nov 14, 2006
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    Some O Guest

    That's a lot of work to BLOW UP an engine! <:)
     
    Some O, Nov 15, 2006
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    sqdancerLynn Guest

    Get the Mopar Preformance Handbook from your dealer Their are lots of
    things to do to a 2.2
    If not done right it will be an instant boat ancor
     
    sqdancerLynn, Nov 15, 2006
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    Steve Guest

    400 HP from a 2.2/2.5 is achievble (its been done, IOW). But its well
    into the zone where you gotta do EVERYTHING right. The main thing is
    make ABSOLUTELY certain that you've got enough fuel delivery- if it
    leans out even for an instant at that kind of boost, you'll hole a
    piston in 3 turns of the crank. You also need active timing control to
    retard the spark as the boost comes up. This isn't a "throw it together
    and go" kind of build. I would definitely look at aftermarket pistons at
    that power level!

    I haven't looked in ages, but the old Shelby Dodge Mailing List used to
    have a lot of guys who did this level of build on 2.2/2.5s. Another
    place to at least look for links would be to see if Dempsey Bowling's
    web page is still active (search for dempsey and "turbo minivan.") Also
    look for the Turbo minivan page- the guys that race the turbo minivans
    tend to need the most power out of the 2.2/2.5, so they're the ones who
    do the most extreme boost increases. Of course they have the most room
    for neat tricks like Powerstroke intercoolers, too, but the basic
    principles apply.
     
    Steve, Nov 15, 2006
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    Steve Guest

    Some O wrote:


    You do know that 400 HP is within the capabilities of that engine,
    right? The crankshaft is stronger (because its slightly shorter and has
    the same size bearings) than a 440/426 Hemi crank. The bottom end could
    take close to 600 horsepower. What limits the 2.2/2.5 to the 400 range
    is keeping the mixture rich enough to not hole a piston, keeping the
    induction temperatures low enough to avoid destructive detonation, and
    keeping the head clamped to the block at the kinds of pressures
    necessary to reach 400 horsepower.
     
    Steve, Nov 15, 2006
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    acannell Guest

    Thanks for all the help! But what I am trying to figure out is if I can
    put my 86 turbo 1 head on an 89+ tbi common block
     
    acannell, Nov 15, 2006
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    Geoff Guest

    Why arencha just buying a 2.5L turbo engine? It's not like there's a
    huge cost involved. My favorite junkyard will sell you ANY
    four-cylinder engine for $150 or so.

    --Geoff
     
    Geoff, Nov 15, 2006
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