Brakes Lock and Won't Let Go, 94 Grand Voyager - Help before they get me killed.

Discussion in 'Voyager' started by Jim Ashburn, Jul 2, 2004.

  1. Jim Ashburn

    Jim Ashburn Guest

    On wet days the rear brakes will make a loud clunk sound and lock up the
    first few times they are applied. When the brakes lock, of course I
    instinctively release the pedal, but the brakes remain locked until the
    van comes to a complete stop. Sometimes they release immediately upon
    coming to a stop. Other times, they won't let go for upwards of 30
    seconds. I bought the van used and was told that the ABS pump had been
    out for years. The ABS fuse had also been pulled. However, the dealer
    says the ABS system cannot be fully disabled (whatever that means).

    Everything I have read says that the first time the brakes are applied,
    the ABS system does a self test (which may be accompanied by a clunk
    sound) and can disable itself if the test isn't nominal, thereafter
    working as a conventional brake system. If the ABS system can disable
    itself, why can it not be permanently disabled? If, in fact, it is
    disabled, then why don't the brakes release? The dealer attributed it
    to the "front springs and 'something' in the ABS system," whatever that
    means.

    I've seen the following causes of brakes locking on this and related
    vehicles (including the Dodge Caravan)...

    1) Sticky Calipers
    2) Sticky Pistons
    3) Sticky Master Cylinder
    4) Some kind of restriction in the brake fluid lines
    5) Sticky ABS relay

    Anyone seen these symptoms before or have any ideas?

    By the way, the occurence appears to have more to do with wet roads that
    any moisture in the system, since it is independent of whether or not
    the van was in the garage or left outside, but I could be wrong on this.
    Maybe it's both.

    Thanks.
     
    Jim Ashburn, Jul 2, 2004
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  2. Jim,

    Take this van to the dealer. That ABS system has a lifetime warranty.
    My dealer replaced the ABS pump and some other thing (accumulator
    maybe) to my 93 Grand Caravan with over 200K miles. This was a
    thousand dollar repair job that kept this van from going to the scrap
    yard.
     
    93GrandCaravan, Jul 19, 2004
    #2
  3. Jim Ashburn

    deadbeat Guest

    Lifetime Warranty? Sign me up! LOL Good one! Lifewtme Warranty!
     
    deadbeat, Jul 20, 2004
    #3
  4. Jim Ashburn

    Joe Guest

    Not sure it applies to the 94.

    From Lemonaid.com:

    1989-91 Cherokee and Wagoneer; 1991-93 minivans; 1990-93 Dynasty, New
    Yorker, Salon, Fifth Avenue, and Imperial; and 1991-92 Monaco and Premier.
    Problem: Malfunctioning ABS brakes.
    Warranty coverage: Chrysler has extended the warranty to up to 10
    years/100,000 miles (160,000 km.), except for the brake actuator piston
    assembly and the pump motor assembly, which have lifetime warranties. Owners
    will be reimbursed for previous
     
    Joe, Jul 21, 2004
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  5. Jim Ashburn

    CBHVAC Guest

    Umm...no..it does not....
    Sorry.
    SOME, IIRC, had a recall..but no freaking lifetime warranty..
     
    CBHVAC, Jul 22, 2004
    #5
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