BMW Mini to Sell Electric Cars in U.S. From Summer 2009

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    jenneylist Guest

    jenneylist, Jun 7, 2009
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    Jim Higgins Guest

    Now for the Oops Factor:

    Exclusive: Foulup may mean around-the-clock recharges for Mini E
    electric car drivers
    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/openroad/post/2009/06/67645775/1

    Up to 300 customers for BMW's Mini E, the first of the new breed of
    electric cars to hit the streets from a major automaker, may be in for a
    maxi-sized disappointment, Open Road has learned.

    The automaker has hit a glitch in distribution of high-voltage charging
    cables. As a result, up to 300 of the 450 customers who have taken a
    one-year lease on the Mini E may only be able recharge them with a
    standard household 110-volt wall-socket cord. That means the cars will
    be required to stay plugged in for 23 hours to get a full charge, says
    Mini spokeswoman Nathalie Bauters. The high-voltage cables, which charge
    the batteries fully in four hours, won't be available until some time in
    July. "This will only be for a few weeks," she said.

    Also on Open Road: New Chinese electric car coming to the USA, the Coda.
    Click here.

    The problem could be a setback not only for Mini, but also for the
    overall movement to electrify cars since success could depend a lot on
    word-of-mouth from early adopters. "The success of these early programs
    is critical to the movement," says Chelsea Sexton, founder of the
    Lightning Rod Foundation, an advocacy group for electric transportation.
    By not having the proper cables, "they are guaranteeing virgin customers
    a poor experience."

    The customers, which Mini calls "field trial participants," won't have
    to pay their $850-a-month lease fee until the high-speed cables are
    installed at their homes, he added. So far, 23 of 450 Mini Es have been
    delivered to California and New York-New Jersey, where the test is
    taking place. The goal is to get all the cars delivered by the end of
    this month even though the high-voltage cables may not be in use for all
    by the end of July.

    "People are keen to get their cars. We feel this is a satisfying
    solution for them," Bauters said.

    The problem isn't a shortage of high-voltage cables, but rather the
    red-tape that goes with the program. The cables are certified as safe by
    a European safety agency, but their certification by Underwriters
    Laboratories for the U.S. is pending. Some of the city or county safety
    inspectors who have to sign off on the charging unit installations in
    customers' homes may insist on UL approval, Bauters says. The problem is
    expected to be worse in the East Coast than in the West.

    The first customer to get his car was Peter Trepp, a venture capital
    executive in Los Angeles, above, who has a high-speed charging
    installation in his garage and loves the car so far. In the picture,
    he's holding up his high-voltage cable.

    Without high-voltage cables, some customers who have longer commutes may
    only be able to use their cars every other day because of the time they
    will spending charging, says Ed Kjaer, electric transportation director
    for Southern California Edison, a big utility that's trying to work
    closely with automakers to promote smooth integration of electric cars.

    But he underscored that Mini's program is a trial. "It's going to be
    trial and error. That's to be expected," Kjaer said. He said these kinds
    of problems can be avoided by studying how the automakers handled the
    previous generation of electric cars in the 1990s -- BMW was not among
    them in California -- and by working with utilities.
     
    Jim Higgins, Jun 7, 2009
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    Bill Putney Guest

    How do they define "virgin"? And how do they collect such personal
    information on their customers?
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 7, 2009
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    MoPar Man Guest

    Hi voltage, as in higher than 240 volts?

    If so, why are they sending the car more than 240 volts? There's no way
    that customers have more than 240 volts entering their homes. If so,
    then if they really need to boost that higher, why not put the step-up
    stuff in the car? That way they wouldn't need a cable rated higher than
    240 volts and they wouldn't have this problem.

    And why would then need more than 240v to charge batteries anyways?
     
    MoPar Man, Jun 7, 2009
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  5. Because the whole project is off the wall...?...

    DAS

    To send an e-mail directly replace "spam" with "schmetterling"
     
    Dori A Schmetterling, Jun 8, 2009
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    Some O Guest

    Hi voltage, as in higher than 240 volts?

    If so, why are they sending the car more than 240 volts? There's no way
    that customers have more than 240 volts entering their homes. If so,
    then if they really need to boost that higher, why not put the step-up
    stuff in the car? That way they wouldn't need a cable rated higher than
    240 volts and they wouldn't have this problem.

    And why would then need more than 240v to charge batteries anyways?[/QUOTE]

    It's very simple to solve.
    Simply pull your stoves 240V plug and plug in the Mini.
    Eat cooked food or just salads and drive your electric Mini!
     
    Some O, Jul 12, 2009
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