Best Way to Go on Brake Pads

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Christian M. Mericle, Sep 8, 2005.

  1. I need to change the front brake pads on my 1996 Voyager. I called the
    local NAPA and they offered me the choice of 3 grades-- economy
    (softest and cheapest), mid (harder and more expensive), and premium
    (hardest and most expensive).

    What's the best way to go? If I go with the economy, I save money now
    and reduce the risk of brake noise and rotor wear but have to replace
    more often. If I go with premium, they'll last longer but I risk brake
    noise and rotor wear.

    -- Christian
     
    Christian M. Mericle, Sep 8, 2005
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  2. Christian M. Mericle

    Walter Guest

    It's a judgement call. I say it all depends on how you drive and how
    long you plan to keep the vehicle. I always have $500 cars so I always
    buy the cheapest parts I can get ... since the car is going to end up in
    the junk yard, anyway, and I don't know when it's going to go.
     
    Walter, Sep 8, 2005
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  3. Christian M. Mericle

    Don Guest


    Go with the semi-metallic pads. Those would be the mid-grade.

    The cheap ones would be organic, which do wear out fast, and the high end
    will be metallic which will make noise.

    If you change the pads yourself and you don't have the rotors turned, at
    least sand the surfaces of the rotors putting a swirl into them.

    And don't forget that crap that goes between the pads and the caliper!!!!
     
    Don, Sep 8, 2005
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  4. Christian M. Mericle

    Joe Guest

    I think the cheap ones stop better, but they might not when they fade. I
    really do not care for high-end pads made to last forever. I have had some
    cars that I felt didn't have adequate brakes with those slick bricks on
    there.
     
    Joe, Sep 9, 2005
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  5. Christian M. Mericle

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    My NAPA Pro-Link shows six (6) grades of front pads available for
    a 1996 Plymouth Voyager, they are; (listed same order as their
    page)

    "True stop"
    Cheap economy pads usually preferred by used car lots or people
    who anticipate selling the vehicle. High iron content, they are
    hard as hell and often break apart in a few years because they're
    so brittle.
    I'd only use 'em if there was nothing else available and then
    toss 'em as soon as a real brake pad -was- available.

    "Safety Stop Metallic"
    Better quality, may make noise but will last longer than the true
    Stops.

    "AE Metallic"
    Premium quality, often referred to as OEM equivalent, may make
    noise like any other metallic, slightly rough on rotors.

    "Safety Stop Ceramix"
    Good quality, good wear characteristics, gentle on rotors, no
    rust colored dusting, though they may dust black. Quiet when
    installed properly. Priced in-between the safety Stop metallics
    and the AE metallics, an excellent value.

    "Ceramix"
    Top gun pad, premium priced. No reason to use them if the Safety
    Stop Ceramix are available since they look virtually identical.

    "Severe Duty Metallic"
    Aimed at the HD fleet market and/or towing or other heavy use.
    Almost guaranteed to make noise, but who cares since it's a fleet
    vehicle being driven to death.

    My choice is almost always the Safety Stop Ceramix, they are
    quiet, don't chew up rotors, don't break apart, come with the
    shims attached. Haven't had a complaint after installing dozens
    and dozens of sets.
    One big advantage "Ceramix" have over the metallics is that as
    they wear, much less metal (iron) is sloughed off to accumulate
    on the related brake hardware, thus much less chance of the
    calipers, slides, pins and bushings becoming seized and bound up
    by accumulated rust. This is a big advantage in brake pad
    longevity and future problems.
     
    aarcuda69062, Sep 9, 2005
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  6. I was leaning toward the mid-- best of both worlds (longer wear w/
    less noise).
    I am doing it myself so I'll take your advice on sanding the rotors.
    Yeah, I remember my dad used to say, "Oh, you don't that." That was
    until my mom made him take apart recently installed brake pads and add
    it because she couldn't stand the squeaking.

    Thanks, all, for the help.

    -- Christian
     
    Christian M. Mericle, Sep 9, 2005
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  7. Christian M. Mericle

    clemslay Guest

    Do you have to brake "for others" often each day?
    Around here, people have learned that they don't
    have to follow the law, and they run most signs
    and some lights. Then I have to brake, as they
    are spilling through their stop sign into the highway.
    My shop put on organic pads, lying to me.
    Next time I will procure the pads myself,
    getting semi-matallic. You need that grinding
    hiss up front to cover for the quadrature
    sinner coming up ahead!
    Rotors are cheap, any are cheaper than the
    "accidents" one must prevent during one's
    daily toil. :( :)
    Spend a lifetime braking for others. or die.
     
    clemslay, Sep 11, 2005
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  8. Apparently the local NAPA only carries three. I'm pretty sure I ended
    up with the Safety Stop Ceramix so sounds like it'll work out. Already
    have them on. Stopping is solid and quiet.

    -- Christian
     
    Christian M. Mericle, Sep 12, 2005
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