Banzai! Toyota in North America

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by George Orwell, May 21, 2007.

  1. Automotive News - May 14, 2007
    http://autonews.com

    Economic development leaders in several states say Toyota officials
    have signaled privately that more investment is coming...

    Since it opened its first auto assembly line in Fremont, Calif., in
    1987, Toyota's pattern in North America has been to go back and double
    its investment. The Georgetown, Ky., plant opened in 1988 to produce
    200,000 cars a year. It now builds 500,000 a year as well as engines.

    Future expansions probably will mean more investment in the $1.28
    billion San Antonio plant, where Toyota began making Tundra pickups in
    November. Toyota also has a small assembly plant in Baja, Mexico, where
    it makes Tacoma pickups http://snipurl.com/Tacoma_07 - Nissan Motor Co.
    is investing heavily in Mexican production.

    A more pressing concern for Toyota is to create more production
    capacity for engines and transmissions. The company has capacity to
    build about 1.45 million engines and 600,000 automatic transmissions in
    North America annually, while it is increasing vehicle capacity to 2.2
    million a year.

    Ray Tanguay, the Toyota executive vice president responsible for
    strategic needs, says the company plans to add a line at its Kentucky
    engine plant. Toyota declined to reveal details, but the plans are
    emerging as it launches production of Camry sedans at Subaru of Indiana
    Automotive Inc. outside Indianapolis.

    The company also will need engines to power the Highlander SUVs it will
    start building in Tupelo, Miss., in early 2010. That project is
    relatively close to Toyota's truck engine plant in Huntsville, Ala.,
    but the company has not revealed its sourcing plan.

    Woodstock, Ontario - RAV4 assembly is to start this year near Toyota's
    Cambridge, Ontario, plant, which has expanded repeatedly.
     
    George Orwell, May 21, 2007
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    kmath50 Guest

    The US automobile market is going the way of consumer electronics,
    unless US manufacturers can reverse the trend.

    Yes, RCA, Zenith and a few well known American names are still used,
    but they are no longer assembled here. Most come from China, Korea, or
    Singapore.

    Unless things change, there will be some vehicles carrying American
    name plates, but they won't be assembled here.

    I am curious, what is the benefits package like for an American
    working at a U.S. Toyota, Nissan, or Honda plant like? Are the
    benefits anything like what UAW workers have?

    -KM
     
    kmath50, May 21, 2007
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    Jeff Guest

    The US Toyota workers just get 401k's, I think with a company match. The
    health care is more expensive.

    So the wages are similar, but the benefits are less.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, May 21, 2007
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    who Guest

    It will be American cars from Korea (now!) and China.
    With German and Japanese cars built in the USA.

    So we buy those that are built in the USA, who cares about the company
    name anyway.
     
    who, May 22, 2007
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  5. Better, actually. As Detroit Free Press has observed in a recent
    article, Toyota is now at parity or slightly better than UAW wages.
    A lot of this is an effort by Toyota to stave off unionization efforts.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, May 22, 2007
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    Jim Higgins Guest

    True!
     
    Jim Higgins, May 22, 2007
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    Joe Guest

    Yeah, they're not stupid. The adversarial relationship that the union likes
    would cost Toyota a lot of productivity, and they'd rather pay extra to the
    people they have that work. Anybody would.
     
    Joe, May 23, 2007
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  8. The question is, if the UAW disappears, would they still continue to pay
    those higher wages? Over time, I would bet that the wages would start
    falling after inflation adjustment.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, May 24, 2007
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    bigjim Guest

    But quality is better at non UAW plants. Union workers are lazy and
    overpaid. The bloated benefits package forces car makers to skimp on
    components and quality suffers. God help Toyota if they build in
    Mexico. Chhhrysler build sthere and there quality is spotty
     
    bigjim, May 24, 2007
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    B A R R Y Guest

    Do you know _anything_ about business? Have you ever made a payroll?

    Do you think the airlines, city and state governments, railroads,
    utilities, etc... would continue to pay what they pay if all union
    representation disappeared? <G>

    Any properly run business pays what it costs to attract and retain
    properly qualified, dependable employees. Anything more is a waste of
    resources and a dereliction of management duties.
     
    B A R R Y, May 24, 2007
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    Joe Guest

    Right. A powerful union that you're not a member of gives you the best of
    both worlds. With the union broken, they'll pay whatever the market
    requires.
     
    Joe, May 27, 2007
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