Bankruptcy and Reorganization for Detroit?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by edward ohare, Nov 23, 2008.

  1. edward ohare

    Larrybud Guest

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    com:
    Arson is a crime against someone elses property. Very similar to
    the legalized theft that the government acts in, in that it's the
    taking or destruction of someone elses property.

    Running a red light puts others at harm.



    I'll take that as a "Yeah, I guess it is theft, because I have no
    other answer!"

    Thanks!
     
    Larrybud, Dec 1, 2008
  2. edward ohare

    Larrybud Guest

    The 9th amendment clearly takes care of state's right. The 2nd is
    clearly for individuals as well, hence the phrase "the right of
    the people to keep and bear Arms".
     
    Larrybud, Dec 1, 2008
  3. edward ohare

    Larrybud Guest

    Sounds like some common sense is prevailing in Florida!

    If there's one thing that consistent about government agencies is
    that they ALWAYS have excesses and waste that can be cut.
     
    Larrybud, Dec 1, 2008
  4. edward ohare

    Larrybud Guest

    @v15g2000yqn.googlegroups.
    com:
    No, it's more than 32k.

    So what. It's offset from the free money they're mailed each year
    because of the AMT.
     
    Larrybud, Dec 1, 2008
  5. edward ohare

    Larrybud Guest

    The debt doubled by having wars on credit and corporate
    Only a completely statist would say all $3 trillion that the US
    Federal government spends each year is "essential".

    Back to reality, it's not really my opinion. Do you remember 1995?
    Hell, the government admitted to it in 1995 during the so-called
    "government shutdown". They even labeled it as "shutting down non-
    essential services".

    Anyway, the "essential" services are clearly labeled in the
    Constitution. Feel free to point out where it says things like
    "EPA", "NASA", "HUD", etc.
     
    Larrybud, Dec 1, 2008
  6. edward ohare

    Dave Head Guest

    BS. We can change our tax structure any time we want. If the imports want to
    be more competitive, they can get _their_ governments to not lay corporate
    taxes on their industries.
     
    Dave Head, Dec 1, 2008
  7. edward ohare

    Dave Head Guest

    Hey, the rest of the world paying their auto workers poverty wages is an
    illegal subsidy of their industries, the way I see it.
     
    Dave Head, Dec 1, 2008
  8. edward ohare

    Bill Putney Guest

    So we should have just stayed out of WWII?
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 2, 2008
  9. edward ohare

    Bill Putney Guest

    Which is why I included the words "I will leave it to you to determine
    if the taxation that our government does is authorized by the
    Constitution, but...". I was way ahead of you. :)
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 2, 2008
  10. edward ohare

    Dave K Guest

    We should never have gotten into it on the front end. It was partly
    our fault we got into it on the back end.

    When one looks at it objectively, it was partly American
    industrialist's sales of goods to Germany that enabled their
    aggression. For certain, it is possible that they might have gotten
    material from somewhere else.

    Once the monster arose there, we still stalled. Those same people
    that supplied the Germans with material supplied ships and war
    material to Britain.

    It was Pearl Harbor that galvanized the US effort against the Axis.
    In that effort, the same people that supplied the Germans, and the
    British supplied the Allied forces.

    Win, Win, Win!

    War is a racket!
    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket>
     
    Dave K, Dec 2, 2008
  11. edward ohare

    who Guest

    The USA did far too long, until attacked at Hawaii.
    Many other countries helped their friends when Hitler attacked.

    BTW Iraq didn't attack the USA at Gulf War II time and was never
    involved in 9/11, but by now most USA people realize the garbage they
    were fed on 9/11.
     
    who, Dec 2, 2008
  12. edward ohare

    Bill Putney Guest



    I don't remember being fed anything about Iraq being involved in 9/11,
    but revisionist history seems to say that I was. I remember when people
    first started saying that we were told that, and I thought to myself
    "WTF!" But they were involved in the OK City bombing (read "The Third
    Terrorist" by Jayna Davis).
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 2, 2008
  13. edward ohare

    Brent Guest

    There were many attempts to link iraq with 9-11 via various chains like
    so-so and went to iraq and he knew so and so who was one of the 19....
    it was pretty thin and wouldn't have an effect on anyone with half a
    brain. However the moron masses are another story.

    the link to Iraq with OK city as I recall tends to point to Iraqis the
    US government brought into the country after gulf war I. Who was behind
    them is unclear.
     
    Brent, Dec 2, 2008
  14. Nope. The Bush administration talked about 9/11 and said that Saddam
    funded terrorism (which indeed he did), but they never came out and
    said he was involved in 9/11.
     
    Matthew Russotto, Dec 2, 2008
  15. edward ohare

    Bill Putney Guest

    That was my recollection too.
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 2, 2008
  16. edward ohare

    Eeyore Guest

    Well.... the logical consequence of globalisation in the long term would indeed tend
    towards parity of wages.

    They aren't poverty wages in their own countries of course.

    Graham
     
    Eeyore, Dec 3, 2008
  17. edward ohare

    Dave Head Guest

    It would tend toward poverty wages, more likely.
    Well, they may not exactly be starving (maybe), but... its not likely they have
    a Mitsubishi Laservue in the living room, maybe not even air conditioning. That
    latter thing is something I think we should try to avoid here.
     
    Dave Head, Dec 4, 2008
  18. edward ohare

    Bill Putney Guest

    Air conditioning?
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 4, 2008
  19. edward ohare

    Dave Head Guest

    Yeah, air conditioning, as in not having it. That would seriously suck here in
    Virginia. It would suck worse, the farther south of Virgina you get.
     
    Dave Head, Dec 4, 2008
  20. edward ohare

    Bill Putney Guest

    Ahh - OK - I thought you were saying we should avoid having a.c. I'm in
    VA too - yes - humidity, but not as bad as SC, GA, and FL.
     
    Bill Putney, Dec 4, 2008
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