Automakers working on next generation of engines

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Greg Houston, Oct 1, 2004.

  1. Greg Houston

    Matt Whiting Guest

    There weren't enough EV-1s to be a concern regarding the power grid.
    However, if you had them by the 100s of thousands or millions, rather
    than thousands (I think they had more than a thousand anway), it would
    have been different. A friend of mine had one and liked it, but the
    range would be a problem for most people, especially in cold climates.
    He lived near San Fran and worked out of his home, so neither range nor
    cold were big issues for him.

    The cost of the EV-1 was inherently greater than the cost of an IC
    powered car, and even similar volumes wouldn't get the prices to be
    similar. And even if the price was equivalent, you still had the
    shortcomings in range, interior space, etc.

    Baloney. People are embracing hybrids rather nicely. People didn't
    embrace electric cars as they have many drawbacks compared to
    conventional gasoline cars. People aren't embracing diesels because
    they cost more to buy, are noisier, have a different smell, have less
    convenient availability of fuel in some areas, etc. Hybrids, but using
    gasoline as the fuel, have sidestepped almost all of these issues except
    higher initial price.

    People will accept new technology when it shows a decided advantage over
    the old. Neither all electric cars nor diesels have yet achieved this.
    Hybrids have, and they are selling well.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Oct 10, 2004
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  2. Greg Houston

    Bill Putney Guest

    Hmmm - I know that one of the items that is mandated by Ford and GM to
    be included in a PPAP package (that's the first-item approval package)
    from a supplier of *any* new vehicle parts is a signed statement that
    the parts contain zero cadmium. However I guess, if the
    economic/technical/political incentives are large enough, they would
    make an exception where it made sense (i.e., these batteries) - as long
    as some air-tight (and prohibitively expensive and/or hard to enforce?)
    handling procedures were incorporated into the life-cycle controls.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Oct 10, 2004
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