ATF+4 in '95 Voyager?

I just had the fluid changed on my '95 Voyager with the 4-speed
automatic. The dealer put in ATF+4. Since then I've seen the text of
TSB 21-004-04, which is certainly one of the most confusing documents
that I've read in quite a while. The text of it appears here:

http://dodgeram.info/tsb/2004/21-004-04.htm

It lists a bunch of different models (not including 1995 minivans), and
then says:

What does the "EXCEPT FOR THOSE LISTED ABOVE" refer to? The "except for
1999 and earlier minivans with the 41TE/AE transmission", or the
lengthy list before that????

I've also seen the earlier TSB 21-006-01, which states:

This seems to indicate that the only problem might be with breaking in
a new torque convertor, which surely won't be a problem with our van
with 112,000 miles. Are there other problems that we might encounter?
I've seen some comments about leaking seals.

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95 Voyager SE 3.0L (still running strong -- hopefully!)
98 Neon R/T(RIP)
01 Neon R/T
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You'll be just fine.
Larry

 

I agree with the confusion and think you have read the TSB properly. The
dealer used the ATF+4 on our 1999 T&C Minivan when the fluid was power
flushed at about 30K miles. I also used the ATF+4 when I dropped the pan
and replaced the fluid and filter at 60K miles. Vehicle now has about 65K
miles and is performing just fine. We never experienced any shudder or
torque converter lock up problems. YMMV. I am using ATF+4 in 3 of 4 of my
Chrysler transmissions (1996, 1999, 2001), but still use ATF+3 in my 1991
Mitsubishi which uses the Chrysler transmission.

Bob

 

It is not just breaking in a new torque converter that is of concern. If the
transmission's computer has to reprogram itself it goes through a cycle that
could result in clutch chatter if +4 is being used instead of +3. Are you
confused yet? Except for that one little issue +4 is superior in every way.
Really look out if they put in +4, plus an additive.

Richard.

 

They didn't put in any additives. I've been thinking about running
the tranmission through the retraining procedure on
http://www.allpar.com/fix/trans.html once the roads clear up around
here. It is driving and shifting fine.

I'm also thinking about putting a tranmission cooler on it. True,
it might have been better to have done it 10 years ago, but since
we're trying to squeeze a few more years out of it, it seems like
a good idea.

 

Why bother? It's fine leave it alone.
Larry