Are your headlight lenses getting cloudy?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Rick, Sep 2, 2005.

  1. Rick

    Hachiroku Guest

    They are plastic with an optical coating.

    After years, the wind with it's little grains of sand 'sandblast' the
    optical coating and the lenses start to fade and turn yellow.

    There isn't really much to do except install new headlights.
     
    Hachiroku, Feb 24, 2006
  2. Rick

    Mike Hunter Guest

    Like any finish lens cover require preventive maintenance . If cleaned and
    protect by a polymer polish on occasion and they will not cloud over.


    mike hunt
     
    Mike Hunter, Feb 24, 2006
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    Charles Guest

    Sorry to disagree but my Aerostar(86) had plastic lenses as well as the
    whole bulb until I replaced them with glass ones
     
    Charles, Feb 24, 2006
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    Bill Putney Guest

    There are two other options (see (1) and (2) below). The cloudiness is
    a surface issue - not thru-the-material.

    For (1) or (2), it would be best to remove the assys. from the vehicle.

    (1) You can sand the surface with ever finer grades of wet-or-dry,
    ending with 2000 grit, and then polish with any one of a number of
    polishes - Mequiar's Plastix™ being one that works well. But you do
    have to periodically repeat the polishing. (Note: When the sanding is
    finished, the surface will look uniformly dull - never fear - the polish
    fills in the microscopic sanding scratches to make it look brand new.
    While not necessary, if you polish it long enough, you will smooth it
    down to a water clear surface, but polish will still be needed
    periodically to protect it from deteriorating again without the clear
    coat that originally came on it.)

    - or -

    (2) Sand it down as in (1) above, and then (after insuring that no
    chemical residues remain from sanding and/or polishing) clear coat the
    surface with regular clear coat - many people have found this a very
    satisfactory solution. Just like the polish in (1) fills in the dull
    finish (after sanding) to make it appear water clear again, so will the
    clear coat.

    Also, whether replacing with new assys. or clear-coating, these might be
    a worthwhile investment:
    http://www.autosportcatalog.com/index.cfm?fa=p&pid=332
    Worst-case, you might have to replace one set of those over the
    remaining life of the vehicle - much cheaper than new headlamp assys.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Feb 25, 2006
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    Ken Weitzel Guest

    Hi Bill...

    Just to add to your sanding process for what it's worth...

    Autoglass people have a product they use... a pink liquid, used
    to polish windshields, that easily polishes plastic to a brand
    new gleam.

    Wish I remembered (if I ever knew) what it's called. How I came
    across it was years and years ago one of the kids went up north
    in a 79 pontiac wagon. Coming back it rained, the passenger
    wiper somehow ripped, and time they got back there was an awful
    gouge in the glass... neighbor was then in the autoglass
    business, and gave me a coke bottles worth of this stuff.

    BTW, lots of elbow grease removed every last trace of the gouge,
    but by the time it was gone the glass was optically changed.
    In this case didn't matter, lower strip on passenger side,
    but if any others try it be careful :)

    Take care.

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Feb 25, 2006
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Yeah - anytime you remove material (change the thickness) unevenly, it's
    going to cause optical distortion. One of my kid's car's windshields
    has an arc from the windshield wiper arm from one night several years
    ago in which the wiper blade fell off in the middle of a bad storm and
    they kept driving with the wipers running with it like that - it's not
    too noticeable, and not deep - just surface abbrassion - I'm hopting
    that if I ever get it polished out, it won't cause noticeable distortion.

    I've concluded that some glass is *much* harder than other glass. I
    worked on it by hand with tooth paste and some other abbrassives - even
    tried wet-or-dry on it. Didn't phase it. I even got my Dremel
    MotoTtool out with the polishing wheel and abbrassive - still didn't
    have any effect! There's a shop in town that's supposed to be set up
    for removing windshield scratches - as soon as I get it back on the road
    (replacing head gasket now) I'm thinking of taking it by there and
    paying to have them see what they can do. Another shop in town says
    they don't do that any more - they just insist on replacing the
    windshield - which I guess is more proftiable for them, and in some ways
    makes sense for the customer too. I just prefer not to break the
    factory seal if I don't have too (plus I have learned that factory
    windshields are made of much harder glass than typical consumer grade
    windshields - and therefore much more resistant to sandblasting and
    other damage (and polishing out of scratches once they do occur). :)

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Feb 25, 2006
  7. Yep. Glass comes in all kinds of different hardnesses. And then there's
    hardened glass, and toughened glass, and...
    Cerium Oxide slurry is the appropriate gookum.
    That's why you want to insist on reputable-name-brand glass when having a
    windshield replaced.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Feb 25, 2006
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    Steve R. Guest

    If it's pink, the active ingredient is probably cerium oxide. It is used in
    optical work quite a bit, as it cuts and polishes faster than rouge. It's
    also less messy. Personally, I would make a lap with optical pitch to do the
    polishing, and avoid the sanding altogether.

    Steve R.
     
    Steve R., Feb 26, 2006
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