Answer this puzzler

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Nomen Nescio, Jun 11, 2005.

  1. Nomen Nescio

    Nomen Nescio Guest

    Car pulls hard to right. Front wheels switched left-to-right and
    right-to-left. Now car pulls hard to left.

    When fronts are rotated to rear, car is neutral.

    This tells me the pull was not due to misalignment, but due to tires
    themselves. How can tires make such a difference?

    Chrysler shop manual devotes an entire page to "car lead" and its
    correction. It address the significance of pronounced influence of tires
    to this problem.

    I frankly don't know how tires can cause major turning tendencies but they
    can and do. Knowing this all the more puzzles me why there is not a
    provision for the driver to neutralize these pulling tendencies other than
    by constantly inputing counteracting steering wheel forces. Anybody who
    drives knows how much better it is when the car is "neutral" in directional
    stability.

    While it has been suggested that a servo adjustable (opposite and equal)
    wheel camber might do the trick, there might also be electronic solutions
    utilizing miniature directional gyros as seen in the Segway machines.
    Whatever method is selected, its time has come to allow driver fine-tuning
    of the steering system to totally eliminate vehicle lead, regardless of
    road, tire, and wind conditions, or suspension discrepancies.
     
    Nomen Nescio, Jun 11, 2005
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  2. Nomen Nescio

    Coasty Guest

    A trick I had learned is to remove the tire from the rim and flip it over so
    the back of the tire is now the front. You can only do this with
    non-directional tires. My wife's Shadow SE use to do this with her first
    set of Eagle GTs I just flipped the tire and it fixed the problem.
     
    Coasty, Jun 11, 2005
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  3. Nomen Nescio

    Coasty Guest

    A trick I had learned is to remove the tire from the rim and flip it over so
    the back of the tire is now the front. You can only do this with
    non-directional tires. My wife's Shadow SE use to do this with her first
    set of Eagle GTs I just flipped the tire and it fixed the problem.
     
    Coasty, Jun 11, 2005
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  4. Nomen Nescio

    Denny Guest

    Would you not need two of these things?? Just in case one went bad, you'd
    have a back up already in place. Much like the fuel pumps you like to bitch
    about.

    Denny
     
    Denny, Jun 11, 2005
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  5. Tires, espically cheap ones, sometimes have rubber that isn't a uniform
    density. As a result, in your case the tire on the side that the car pulls
    to has a smaller diameter than the other tire since it's worn down faster.
    You can also have different regions of the tire wear faster due to the
    same problem.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jun 12, 2005
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Swapping the tires from one side to the other should immeidately
    pinpoint if the tires themselves are causing a pulling problem for
    whatever reason.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    adddress with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jun 12, 2005
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  7. ....then along comes som idiot, who adjusts his/her car incorrectly and
    "leads" it right into either the median or ditch. Voila - instant lawsuit!
    Ain't America great?
     
    Jeff Falkiner, Jun 18, 2005
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