Analysts: Chrysler Still Has Uncertain Future (Manufacturing.net)

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    admin Guest

    http://www.ng2000.com/fw.php?tp=chrysler

    08/05/2008: After a year with Cerberus, industry analysts say Chrysler faces a bumpy road that could include a future sale of part or all of the automaker.
     
    admin, Aug 5, 2008
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    Uncertain? That's the most optimistic statement I've seen in months!
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Aug 6, 2008
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    Steve Guest


    And I would say the same for Ford, GM, Nissan, and all the others, too.
    Its just going to be tough for carmakers in the future, period.
     
    Steve, Aug 6, 2008
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    All three in the US seem to be swirling the drain, with the ones
    farthest away heading down fastest. It's an interesting race...
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Aug 6, 2008
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    Lloyd Guest

    This on top of the Nissan small car Chrysler is going to sell, and the
    Dodge pickup Nissan is going to sell. A tie-up with Nissan is looking
    more likely, methinks.
     
    Lloyd, Aug 7, 2008
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    who Guest

    Well it may solve a Chrysler intermediate car problem for me, if
    Chrysler doesn't screw up the Nissan products with their changes.
    For example I don't like the Sebring (functionally) but I do like the
    Altima.
     
    who, Aug 9, 2008
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    Some O Guest

    Chrysler has a slightly different ownership situation than the others.
    Cerberus is a rich man's hedge fund looking for short term profit,
    regardless of where it leaves Chrysler.
     
    Some O, Aug 9, 2008
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    I keep seeing this claim, but when I took a brief look at Cerberus's
    portfolio, it seemed like they take on these companies and keep them.
    So I'll ask the same question now I asked a year ago: what has
    Cerberus ever sold? And (more importantly) what have they ever
    dismembered and sold as pieces?

    Nobody answered last time I asked that.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Aug 9, 2008
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    Bill Putney Guest

    But does what they do work (thinking Home Depot).

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Aug 9, 2008
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  10. Hee's your answer.

    Cerberus's Sharp-Toothed Ways
    Firm Has History Of Turnarounds Fueled by Cuts
    By Frank Ahrens
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Tuesday, May 15, 2007; D01

    In more than a decade of buying into down-and-out companies across
    three continents, Cerberus Capital Management has applied a similar
    strategy to most of its targets: cut, cut and cut some more.

    Now Chrysler is set to join a list of acquisitions that includes long-
    haul trucker Fruehauf, Air Canada and lingerie maker Frederick's of
    Hollywood. Many of those companies have experienced turnarounds under
    Cerberus's slashing ways, but not without pain.

    New York's Cerberus bought more than 600 struggling Albertsons
    supermarkets last year and laid off nearly 1,000 workers within
    months. Last fall, the firm bought the on-the-brink Blue Bird school
    bus manufacturer; earlier this month, Cerberus closed its Canadian bus
    plant and let go 130 workers. Cerberus bought a North Carolina textile
    company out of bankruptcy in 2004 and closed two mills within the
    year. It bought the Alamo and National car rental chains out of
    bankruptcy in 2004 and moved them from high-rent South Florida to more-
    affordable Tulsa.

    Cerberus's sharp-toothed ways may be inspired by its namesake:
    Cerberus was the three-headed canine guardian of the gates of Hades in
    Greek mythology.

    Cerberus the company maintains an even lower profile than its rivals,
    such as Providence Equity Partners, Blackstone Group and Washington's
    Carlyle Group. Cerberus has $25 billion under management and in funds
    and accounts. With just 200 of its own employees, Cerberus owns or has
    pieces of about 50 companies with more than 175,000 employees and a
    combined annual revenue of $60 billion, the company says.

    The firm is run by financier Stephen Feinberg, who was a trader at
    Drexel Burnham Lambert in the 1980s, when the firm popularized the use
    of "junk bonds" for corporate takeovers. Former Treasury secretary
    John W. Snow was named chairman of Cerberus in October. Former vice
    president Dan Quayle is on the board.

    Cerberus distinguishes itself from other private-equity firms by
    maintaining a staff of in-house operations executives. Meaning: When
    it takes over a company, it often doesn't have to recruit a new chief
    executive; it puts one of its own in place.

    "This is a bit of an unusual transaction for them in that it does now
    make them very, very public," said Boston University law professor
    Charles Whitehead, who studies equity firms. "It's like the Japanese
    buying Pebble Beach -- if you want to get attention, this is the way
    to do it."

    These are flush times for Cerberus and all of private equity. Moneyed
    investors seeking big payoffs have created an equity pool estimated at
    $500 billion, up from $8 billion at the beginning of the 1990s,
    according to the Columbia Business School.

    Nearly $400 billion in private-equity transactions have taken place so
    far this year, nearly doubling the dollar amount by this point last
    year, Thomson Financial reported.

    Investors are attracted to the high returns generated by equity funds.
    Among Cerberus's investors is the California State Teachers'
    Retirement System.

    Generally, equity money seeks struggling industries where cuts can be
    made and profits quickly increased. Some firms seek to flip their
    companies soon after paring them to the bone. Others have a longer-
    term view, taking their annual guaranteed profit and helping turn
    around ailing companies.

    Cerberus would not comment yesterday on its strategy but appears to be
    in an automotive buying cycle. Previously, the company passed through
    a fashion and retail stage by acquiring textile mills, Mervyns
    discount department store and Frederick's.

    Cerberus bought 51 percent of GMAC, General Motors' financing unit,
    last year, and it owns auto parts maker Peguform Group in Germany and
    is trying to buy into troubled parts maker Delphi. Now, the buyout
    firm is set to add an entire automaker to its portfolio.

    A look at Cerberus's track record with its previous acquisitions may
    indicate how it will treat Chrysler and raise the question: Under a
    Cerberus ownership, will one of Detroit's Big Three remain so, or will
    it become a substantially smaller automaker, more analogous in size to
    Mitsubishi than Ford?

    Albertsons was a supermarket chain based in Boise, Idaho, that spread
    throughout the West. Hurt like all supermarket chains by Wal-Mart, the
    company's sales went flat and profits dropped. Cerberus joined
    supermarket chain SuperValu to buy 655 Albertsons stores in January
    2006 in a $17.4 billion deal.

    Cerberus went to work fast. In June 2006, nearly 200 Albertsons
    warehouse workers were laid off in Northern California. The next
    month, a number of Albertsons stores ended their costly online grocery-
    shopping services. In November, Cerberus sold 132 Albertsons in
    California and Nevada. A year later, Cerberus-owned Albertsons closed
    nine Colorado stores, laying off 750.

    Shoppers have noticed improvements at Cerberus-owned Albertsons in
    Florida, the St. Petersburg Times reported last month, and the chain
    has installed efficient new registers, raised some prices and
    instituted systematic employee training for the first time.

    In 2004, Cerberus targeted Mervyns, an underperforming chain owned by
    Target and squeezed by rivals such as Wal-Mart and Kmart.

    Cerberus paid $1.7 billion for 257 Mervyns stores and started cutting.
    In September 2005, the company said it had decided to concentrate on
    California, exiting poorer markets in Michigan and Oklahoma. As a
    result, the company closed 62 stores and laid off 4,800 full- and part-
    time workers. Four months later, Mervyns pulled out of Washington
    state, closing 20 stores and letting go 880 full- and part-time
    workers, and closing stores in Oregon, as well.

    Now, Mervyns is trimmed down to 189 stores, including four new stores
    opened in October in California, Texas and Arizona, the first since
    the Cerberus acquisition. Cerberus's Vanessa Castagna is chairman of
    Mervyns' board and said at the time that the company will continue to
    "expand in our core markets."

    Staff writer Thomas Heath contributed to this report.
     
    Pete E. Kruzer, Aug 9, 2008
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    Jim Higgins Guest

    Good-bye Chrysler.
     
    Jim Higgins, Aug 9, 2008
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    Thanks, but that answers a different question: it says their strategy
    for turning around ailing companies is to shrink the company until
    it's profitable. It doesn't say they're only looking for short-term
    profit, nor that they'll get Chrysler profitable and then sell it off.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Aug 9, 2008
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    Some O Guest

    Well at least Cerberus is consistent.
    Their bean counting approach has been cutting back at Air Canada, but
    they are increasingly losing business to newer rival Westjet who just
    formed an alliance with Southern.
    Under Cerberus Air Canada has even cut back on their Aeroplan points
    scheme, so much that people are starting to get out of it.

    Do they see Chrysler's only value as a manufacturer of high profit
    trucks with a valuable dealership network to sell others cars?
     
    Some O, Aug 9, 2008
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    Count Floyd Guest

    I feel just the opposite. Nissan made the new Altima too big, from
    the late '90s model. Do they still put a four cylinder in the Altima?
     
    Count Floyd, Aug 10, 2008
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     Nissan made the new Altima too big, from the late '90s model.

    Not the coupe. I'd take one of these over the smaller ones, the
    Toyota, Saturn and Pontiac. Too small.
     
    Pete E. Kruzer, Aug 10, 2008
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    Miles Guest

    I had a 1993 Altima. Great inexpensive car. Then Nissan kept jazzing
    it up, adding frills, making it bigger and upping the price. It's no
    longer an inexpensive car thats a step above the no-frills cars. It's
    almost where the Maxima was market wise not that long ago.
     
    Miles, Aug 10, 2008
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    Steve B. Guest

    Albertsons.

    Steve B.
     
    Steve B., Aug 11, 2008
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    OK, reading the story... that's closer to the "buy and dismember"
    model than I was aware of previously (at least, the sale of some
    stores to SaveMart). On the other hand, they've also bought a couple
    of stores since then. The "buy and dismember" model I'm thinking of
    is more like Carl Icahn.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Aug 11, 2008
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    Steve Guest

    Nissan makes a decent small car. But Nissan can't build a truck to save
    their life. IT may indeed work.
     
    Steve, Aug 12, 2008
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    Steve Guest

    You could equally well argue that as a private company, it has greater
    agility in times that demand rapid change. Who knows how it will pan out?
     
    Steve, Aug 12, 2008
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