ABS, brake light 98 Dodge Dakota

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Frank Boettcher, Aug 31, 2005.

  1. For several months, my abs and brake light have been coming on for a
    few seconds only to go out and not come back on when the vehicle is
    shut down and then restarted. Yesterday they came on and stayed on.

    My (almost useless) Haynes manual says to check all electrical
    connections then defer to the dealership to get codes scanned. Is
    there something else I can check before I do that? What is the likely
    culprit? The normal hydraulic brake system seems to be working fine,
    no leaks, pad wear or other porblems apparent. Am I safe to drive
    until I can get this fixed?

    Frank
     
    Frank Boettcher, Aug 31, 2005
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  2. Frank Boettcher

    TNKEV Guest

    Rear wheel speed sensor is the likely culprit.
    yes it is safe to drive but I wouldn't wait too long.
    the only issue is you don't have ABS your brakes will still work
    fine,in the event of a panic stop your wheels may lock up like on
    older vehicles that don't have ABS.
     
    TNKEV, Aug 31, 2005
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  3. Could be clockspring?

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Sep 1, 2005
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  4. Frank Boettcher

    tim bur Guest

    hmmm abs anti lock brake system
    hmmm brake llite is on
    sorry can't see why a clockspring for a airbag system would affect the
    brakes wrong again
     
    tim bur, Sep 1, 2005
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  5. I had read that to mean his brake warning light on the dash was coming
    on. If he's observing the ABS light coming on for a few seconds while
    driving I can't imagine how he would be in a place to see if the brake
    lights on the rear of the vehicle are coming on for a few seconds.

    But if it is his vehicle brake lights that are coming on for a few seconds
    then
    yes, that very likely wouldn't be the clockspring.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Sep 2, 2005
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  6. Took it to a brake place this morning. Mechanic, who I trust and has
    done brake work for me in the past with good results, put it on his
    $10K Snap On scanner that he pays $1100 per quarter for software
    updates and it would not scan the ABS. He said first time that has
    ever happened. Frustrated after 30 minutes of trying, he sent me on
    my way and didn't charge me for the effort.

    I got an appointment with the dealership (whom I don't trust) but
    can't get it done till next Wed. I'm trying to get this fixed before
    I go south to Biloxi to haul some fuel and supplies. Waiting for the
    Highway Patrol to lift the barricades south of Hattiesburg.
     
    Frank Boettcher, Sep 2, 2005
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    maxpower Guest

    I think you got confused with Passive restraint AIR BAG LITE When the OP
    was referring to Anti lock brakes..The clock spring doesnt come into play
    Ted
     
    maxpower, Sep 2, 2005
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  8. Frank Boettcher

    tim bur Guest

    there is a red lite that does read brake on the dash when the brake fluid
    gets low or the abs sets a code
     
    tim bur, Sep 2, 2005
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  9. Frank Boettcher

    tim bur Guest

    well if you remove the right kick panel you will find a small silver box
    and then find a black single wiring connector attached to the harness and
    ground it out the abs lite will flash the brake code count the flashes
    too bad you tech you had look at it did not have all data service info
    systems he could have read the service proceedure on how to correctly read
    codes in the system since he does not have a dbr3 scantool
     
    tim bur, Sep 2, 2005
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  10. In addition to the above, I've noticed that my speedometer is delaying
    it's operation when I start to move. It stays at zero until I hit
    about 30mph and then pops up. I can't see any relation to the brake
    issue, but I'll defer to the more knowledgeable if anyone else does.

    How does this speedometer work. Is there a pickup or sensor that
    could be going bad? where is it? Driveshaft, transmission?

    Frank
     
    Frank Boettcher, Sep 3, 2005
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  11. Answering my own question, I read that on '98 and newer models the
    speedometer gets its signal from the ABS speed sensor located on the
    rear differential housing.

    Fairly sure now that that sensor is the offending culprit. Is it a
    remove and replace item or does it require some kind of reprogramming
    after installation?
     
    Frank Boettcher, Sep 3, 2005
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  12. Frank Boettcher

    tim Guest

    pretty simple to do yourself... I had the dealer do it tho (didn't want to
    crawl under the truck in the winter), cost about 100.00 Could have saved 80
    bucks doing it myself.
     
    tim, Sep 4, 2005
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