About Caravan tranny problem

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by John61, Mar 16, 2007.

  1. John61

    John61 Guest

    I want to buy an used Caravan. But heard that Caravan ever had notorious
    problems with its transmission, but it's fixed lately. I wonder, from which
    year, Dodge has solved this issue?

    Also somebody mentioned its common problem of belt slip-off in rainy days.
    Any advice?

    Thanks,

    John
     
    John61, Mar 16, 2007
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  2. John61

    kmatheson Guest


    Most of the problems were from when the transmission was introduced in
    1989, until the mid-1990's. How old of a Caravan are you considering?

    By changing the fluid on a regular basis, and by using the correct
    fluid, many problems can be avoided. For most newer Chrysler
    tranmissions, ATF+4 is recommended, and is now readily available under
    the Mopar name, and aftermarket names.

    If you do need transmission service, go to a reputable shop, that has
    the correct scan tool and other diagnostic equipment. Don't settle for
    a "road test" diagnosis.

    For more info, see the transmission section of allpar.com. It has a
    wealth of information collected for many years.

    Remember that front wheel drive automatics don't seem to hold up as
    their RWD counterparts did. 100,000 - 150,000 miles seems to be about
    average for a tranmission in a Chrysler Mini-van. Pulling a trailer
    can also affect the tranmission's life, even when following the
    owner's manual.


    -KM
     
    kmatheson, Mar 16, 2007
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  3. John61

    John61 Guest

    Thanks. The info is most useful.

    I'm considering a 3-5 year old Caravan. I heard the transmission problem was
    still "common" for model years around 2000. That's why I asked.

    John

    On Mar 15,
     
    John61, Mar 16, 2007
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    Bob Shuman Guest

    We own a '99 T&C minivan with 80K miles and I've changed the fluid and
    filter twice at about 30K mile intervals. Other than a speed sensor which
    cost around $25 for the part and 15 minutes to replace, the performance of
    this transmission has been flawless and it still shifts like new.

    This contrasts to our '90 minivan which had the first iteration of the
    electronic 4-speed transmission which literally self destructed itself at
    48K miles and 6 years of age, despite regular preventive maintenance.
    Although not as durable as the older, larger, and heavier rear drive units,
    they have improved the reliability considerably over the years. That said,
    maintenance is still critical to extend the life span. Also, do not buy a
    used van that was used to tow anything at all, but having the towing package
    for the trans cooler is a plus.

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Mar 16, 2007
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  5. John61

    NewMan Guest

    We used to own a 1994 Grand Caravan. The tranny went at about 130,000
    Kms. We had it rebuild by a shop that had done some work for the
    previous owner. They screwed it up. We had a 20,000 km, 1 year
    warranty. At 51 weeks, and 19500 km, it blew AGAIN.

    They begrudginly rebuilt it a second time, only THIS TIME they kept
    the van for 3 weeks! I was pissed, but I insisted that they "get it
    right" this time. So they insisted on completely stripping it down to
    discover why the rebuild failed. Then there was a problem with this
    location of the local chain changing owners.... Eventually they sent
    the trans to the "head office" location where it was stripped down,
    diagnosed, and rebuilt.

    After that the trans worked very well for about 40,000 kms. At this
    point the solenoid pack failed and it went into limp mode. But the
    repair was not very expensive, and I was on the road in about a day.
    After the new solenoid pack, the trans shifted like spanking new!

    Unfortunately, before 190,000 kms, the van was "totalled" by another
    driver who blew a stop sign.

    We now own a 2002 Grand Caravan. The only thing we had to do with the
    trans was replace the solenoid pack. We purchased this van with about
    93,000 kms on it, and the solenoid pack was literally PUKING oil all
    over the engine compartment. We thought it was the head gasket
    leaking, but no! it was the solenoid pack!

    Again, after the solemoid pack was replaced (warranty!) the trans
    shifts like spanking new - smooth as silk.

    My research prior to purchasing the 2002 indicated that after about
    2000 model year, the trans problems have - by-and-large - been
    corrected.

    Where I live, the cost of rebuilding the transmission (about $1500
    CDN$ plus tax) is often prohibative for the value of the older vans.
    Older vans (1990's) seem to be valued between $500 and $5000 depending
    upon mileage and body condition. If the owner of an older van cannot
    produce the reciept for a rebuild and the requisite preventive
    maintenance on the transmission from a reuptable dealer - then walk
    away.

    These older vans usually have LOTS of stuff that goes wrong with them,
    and it takes $$$$ to fix.

    Over the years that I had my 1994, I put just over $10,000 in
    mantenance into it. It was in near perfect condition, and when it was
    written off bby the insurance company the $10,000 in maintnance
    translated into an additional $600 in value. They gave me $3500 for
    it. Without my receipts, the offer would have been $2900.

    So if you are buying an older van, a mechanical inspection is a MUST
    so you know what you are getting into. And, if the trans has not been
    rebuilt, this should be reflected in the selling price.

    For the 2001 model year and up, the trans should be OK as long as no
    towing has been done, and mileage is low. But be aware that these vans
    depreciate very quickly. If you buy a van with more than 80,000 kms on
    it, and a warranty is offered - TAKE IT!

    My warrant cost me $2000 extra, and was for an additional 2 years and
    40,000 kms. The van is in the shop (again) this weekend. So far the
    dealership is into the van for about $3500 in repairs. I have a $100
    deductable per invoice, so I have paid about $400! :) :) and I have
    only had the van for about 6 months. :)

    hth
     
    NewMan, Mar 17, 2007
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  6. John61

    John61 Guest

    Good info. Thanks.

     
    John61, Mar 18, 2007
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    Joe Guest

    I had a 92, and at one time, it seemed like everybody I knew had one,
    because of so many folks I knew having kids at the same time. No bad
    transmissions in any of them, ever. So I think people talk about the risk
    of failure all the time, but a lot of them don't fail at all. Just hauled
    one to the crusher, a 1989, with the original overdrive tranny and 190k
    miles. It threw a rod. Lack of lubrication.

    Also, since nobody has addressed your belt question, they have an idler on
    them that bends. When the belt slips off that's just telling you to replace
    the idler. No problem.
     
    Joe, Mar 19, 2007
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