A604-41TE Amsoil synthetic versus ATF+3 Mpoar 7176 ??

Ummm... google groups is a portal giving a really crummy interface
to usenet.

 

What's your problem?

Stop whining because you dislike my point of view.

Stop trying to make this personal by baiting people.

If you are so offended by free speech then move to
the PRC or something.


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By the way it is *you're*, as in "you are not going
to blah blah blah", a contraction of you are, and not
*your*, as in "that's your problem".

Rather than offering ideas and relevant information
you persist in restating the same tired catch phrases,
e.g. "ATF +4 is the only fluid to use!", "AMSOIL is
snake oil!, "It works man!", and other such wearisome
trollish garbage e.g., "Your[sic] this and that and
you smell bad so go away. HAW HAW HAW!"

Clearly your position is sophomoric at best, and
in addition you're making yourself appear stupid.

 

Was that some sort homophobic seizure or something?

I am a woman, and I do giggle upon occasion. Is that
a problem for you? Maybe you could stop trying to
substitute personal digs in place of a knowledgeable
refutation and making yourself look like an ass.

Well you're the Ph.d. Perhaps you could be so kind as
to explain it to the class.

 

Hmmmm.

Was that some sort homophobic seizure or something?

I am a woman, and I do giggle upon occasion. Is that
a problem for you? Maybe you could stop trying to
substitute personal digs in place of a knowledgeable
refutation and making yourself look like an ass.

Well you're the Ph.d. Perhaps you could be so kind as
to explain it to the class.

 

another Pfeifferism of note.

Well, Dr., at last you are within your field.

True as that may be. At least this portal is
not censored by boorish corporate loyalists
masquerading as automotive forum moderators.

Perhaps you have something actually on topic
to share with us today?

 

My point is not that AMSOIL makes the best ATF.
I would have bought REDLINE C+ if I could found
some for sale.

Really my point is that there are far better
alternatives to overpriced MOPAR ATF +3 and +4,
including Valvoline ATF, REDLINE C+ and Amsoil
ATF.

In addition. I point out that Daimler Chrysler
has been misinforming their customers about
their vehicles transmission fluid requirements.

They have perpetrated this long running hoax.
To keep their profit margin up by causing
their customers to buy only their ATF. To
keep them coming back for parts and service,
which would not have been necessary if their
inferior ATF had not been used, instead of
superior alternatives.

Valvoline, Redline and Amsoil ATF is not
snake oil. Daimler Chrysler's business
ethic certainly is though, and their ATF
+4 semi synthetic, is an inferior product
by design.

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My point is not that AMSOIL makes the best ATF.
I would have bought REDLINE C+ if I could found
some for sale.

Really my point is that there are far better
alternatives to overpriced MOPAR ATF +3 and +4,
including Valvoline ATF, REDLINE C+ and Amsoil
ATF.

In addition. I point out that Daimler Chrysler
has been misinforming their customers about
their vehicles transmission fluid requirements.

They have perpetrated this long running hoax.
To keep their profit margin up by causing
their customers to buy only their ATF. To
keep them coming back for parts and service,
which would not have been necessary if their
inferior ATF had not been used, instead of
superior alternatives.

Valvoline, Redline and Amsoil ATF is not
snake oil. Daimler Chrysler's business
ethic certainly is though, and their ATF
+4 semi synthetic, is an inferior product
by design.

..

 

Another Pfeifferism of note.

Well, Dr., at last you are within your field.

True as that may be. At least this portal is
not censored by boorish corporate loyalists
masquerading as automotive forum moderators.

Perhaps you have something actually on topic
to share with us today?

 

Hmmmm.

Was that some sort homophobic seizure or something?

I am a woman, and I do giggle upon occasion. Is that
a problem for you? Maybe you could stop trying to
substitute personal digs in place of a knowledgeable
refutation, and making yourself look like an ass.

Well you're the Ph.d. Perhaps you could be so kind as
to explain it to the class.

 

No censorship is involved at all. AS Godlike as I would like to be, I have
no influence over the internet, usenet groups or what any other person does
or does not read. My only power is to ask my newsreader software to not
display postings from selected persons. Since you're so concerned over the
issue, my criteria for blocking comes up when the poster wanders away from
posting on the topic and resorts to personal attacks on those who differ
with him.

 

How? The dealer lied on credit apps. And DC gets blamed for it! And the
dealer went out of business for being a roach. Even the customers sueing
want out of the lawsuit, because of dealers lies. But you blame DC. Amsoil
snake oil sales merchants are the same!

 

He is a Scamsoil Snake oil salesman. Look at all the Time he has to Post!
He's like a Maytag salesman, Not doing any business! Sitting in his Trailer
at the Mobile home park all day posting. Gotta Love that.

P.S. I'm not racists. I believe all Trailer park residents are TT Amsoil
Sales people!

 

You've stated your opinion. It has been largely rejected as unsupported
and unsupportable. Repeating your opinion isn't likely to change this.

 

I never said you have any "influence over the internet",
and you know it. I said *I think* you moderate a forum
somewhere. I suppose I could have added the word may,
but a reasonable person, could see I was not stating I
knew such was the case.

Your saying you had *blocked* fwd_mopabuku did make me
wonder though, if you had BLOCKED him from appearing on
an entire forum. I mean, usually the brats say something
like this, when they bozo filter someone. "YOU ARE ON
IGNORE BUDDY! Nya Nya Nya Nya NYAAAA", ad nauseum etc.


By saying you blocked him you made me wonder though.
That is why I did a Google WEB search on this thread.
It was then I discovered that, YEP, this thread has
indeed been censored in many automotive forums. Just
as I said earlier.


Just curious.

Under the censorship criteria you operate by, have you
also filtered Sternn, Pffeifer, Steve B and David, for
repeatedly attacking others and ditorting their words?
Have you considered bozo filtering your own posts?

I noticed you blocked fwd_mopabuku. From what I can see
though, he is only guilty of allowing guys like I just
mentioned, to get him angry for reapeatedly baiting him.

Do you bozo the idiots who go off topic, purposely
distort my words, bait me, and falsely claim I sell
Amsoil? I mean since as you confess, "AS Godlike as I
would like to be", wouldn't being fair and even handed
be more "Godlike"? Or is it just the power you enjoy?


Please get this.

Only a fool would try to sell Amsoil to DCX shills,
or try to convince close minded idiots, to rethink
their unreasoning prejudices.

I know that is not what I came here for. I just know
that this thread will be forever archived, and made
available for search engines. I want consumers to
know the truth about the DCX ATF scam. That's all.

Don't forget to filter me out also. If you haven't
already done so.

So far you guys have helped the cause tremendously,
by being so transparently duplicitous, hypocritical,
and unfalteringly irrational.

Thank you, all of you, so very very much.

 

LOL

I am a she not a he. Obviously you haven't even
read my posts, and so you do not even know what
you are talking about.

I am not an Amsoil sales person.

Maybe you are telling the truth, and you are
not a racist. You are however clearly a bigot.
Because obviously you have a penchant for making
broad sweeping value judgments about others,
based upon faulty stereotypes, regrading what
areas people live in. How very Daimler of you.

You are clearly a jerk who does not think before
he speaks. I suppose it is fair to presume that
you are not a DCX public relations officer. Then
again, I suppose it really isn't, is it.


ROTFL!

OH GOD.

That was a good one.

Thanks!

I have to get back to work now.

Dig ya later discriminator!

ROTFLH

OHH GOD

 

Sure it can. If a certain level of "slipperiness" or viscosity is
required for proper operation and the full synthetic isn't in that range
(might be too slippery, or too thin), then it isn't better and very
likely is worse.

No, just someone who can recognize a duck when he hears or sees one.

So you'd rather see them ripped off my Scamsoil?

The only problem is that there is no evidence that it is better.


Matt

 

But our point is that your point is incorrect.

Wrong again.

And you have no data to support his assertion. It may be true, but you
certainly have given no evidence that it is true.

Given the number of people buying Toyota's now to get better quality, I
really doubt that any auto maker would knowingly shorten the life of
their vehicles and encourage even more defections. However, believe
whatever conspiracy theory suits your fancy.

I don't know if it is snake oil or not, but I do know that it isn't
suitable for Chrysler transmissions that specify ATF+4.


Matt

 

Do you really need to post everything twice? Reading your drivel once
is more than enough. However, at least you are consistent. Your
knowledge or newsreader operation matches your knowledge of ATF.



Matt

 

Maybe you're not an Amsoil salesman, but you're also not a Chrysler
owner. At least not a knowledgeable one. No one who actually deals with
them has called it an "A604" for more than 10 years. Its a 41TE or a 42LE.

 

I don't care if you're a woman or not. But on purely technical grounds,
you're "any sythetic has to be better than a semi-synthetic" argument
aint got no balls, that much is certain.