a/c recharging

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Randy Pape, Jul 7, 2007.

  1. Randy Pape

    Randy Pape Guest

    hello i just put a can of freon r134a in my 98 dodge stratus and have a ?
    about it. when i put the refill gauge on it at first, it said low ( in the
    green area on gauge) then when i put the can of freon onto it and emptied
    it, it was in the blue range which means full. now i noticed the more i
    reved the engine,then the gauge would fall down toward the green area. does
    this mean i need more freon so that when i rev it good it stays in the full
    area on the gauge? thanks Randy
     
    Randy Pape, Jul 7, 2007
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  2. Randy Pape

    maxpower Guest

    Randy if you don't have a clue of how the A/C system works you may want to
    leave that job to someone that is qualified to do the repair. You can
    seriously hurt yourself by trying to charge the system yourself or do damage
    to the system .

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Jul 7, 2007
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  3. Randy Pape

    Gyzmologist Guest

    Glenn is right. To charge the system properly requires a manifold gage
    set that shows high and low side pressures. You measure the temperature
    of the liquid line at the condenser and compare that with the high side
    pressure against a chart in the service manual. The other option is to
    completely evacuate the system and recharge it with the exact amount of
    refrigerant specified for your car.

    If your ac was not cooling properly, but worked good sometimes, chances
    are the expansion valve is bad and needs to be replaced. If you have a
    high mileage car you might consider replacing the compressor (and filter
    dryer) now. If you wait until the compressor dies, the repair job will
    be more expensive because the lines will need to be flushed out to
    remove any metal particles that the compressor may have shed.

    Those top off kits that the auto parts stores sell are a waste of money.
    If you were unfortunate enough to pick the one that adds oil to the
    system, now your ac system has too much oil in it. The excess oil
    displaces refrigerant which reduces its BTU capacity. You never add oil
    unless you have replaced a component like the filter/dryer, and then add
    only the amount that component holds.

    --
    Gyz

    07 Saturn Sky
    98 Dodge Status ES
    94 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST
     
    Gyzmologist, Jul 7, 2007
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  4. Oh come on Glenn, obviously his system is RF'ed already or he wouldn't
    have been screwing around with it. You can't get a garage these days in the
    middle of the summer to touch an A/C job for under $500, they have more
    than enough work to not bother with the peanut jobs.

    To the original poster, here's how the guage color codes work:

    ) No needle deflection - big freon leak, if you add freon it's just going
    to
    be empty in a few weeks again. System is RF'ed. Adding freon to this
    system is definitely illegal until it's repaired.

    ) Needle deflection into the white or low green area - very likely smaller
    freon
    leak and if you add freon it might last the summer. Add freon gradually and
    stop
    when the air starts blowing cold. If the air temp doesen't change after
    adding
    a can, stop adding, the system is RF'ed. Also, consider buying a black
    light
    and a can of Freon with dye in it, add the freon, drive a week, then use the
    blacklight
    to find the leak. It's most likely a fitting, sometimes just tightening the
    fitting will work.

    ) Needle deflection into the green or blue area - don't add freon the system
    is not leaking. System is RFed.

    ) Needle deflection into the high blue and yellow area - system is probably
    partly plugged - look for a big rock dent in the condensor in the front that
    might have collapsed one of the tubes. Do not add freon. Do not run the
    A/C. System is RFed.

    )Needle deflection into the yellow or red area - system probably has a
    plugged
    expansion valve. Do not add freon. Do not run the A/C unless you want to
    damage it. System is RFed.

    Ted

    * RF = Royally Fucked.
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jul 8, 2007
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  5. Randy Pape

    philthy Guest

    i guess by your statement is why my shop is always swamped with ac work for
    less than 500 is there
     
    philthy, Jul 8, 2007
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  6. Randy Pape

    Joe Guest

    I'm sure there's an english sentence in there somewhere, but I can't quite
    make it out.
     
    Joe, Jul 10, 2007
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  7. Randy Pape

    Joe Guest

    Here's my answer: No. My answer is just as good as the other guys', and
    it's short!
     
    Joe, Jul 10, 2007
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