98 Dodge Grand Caravan

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by jmcoggins, Oct 9, 2006.

  1. jmcoggins

    jmcoggins Guest

    I just bought a used 1998 Dodge Grand Caravan 107000mi, and we love how
    comfy it is inside... but the only thing is since we bought it we have
    had some trouble with a lot of things. When we first test drove the
    car, it worked great accept for some weak breaks which my husband has
    repaired,.. there were no belt noises, no smell of oil leaking, etc..
    he is a DIY.

    After we brought the car home, within the first week,.. we realized
    there was a small oil burning smell when we would get out of it. He
    said he saw a drip while working under the car, but has no clue as to
    where it is leaking from.

    We have replaced the belt to a gator belt, due to belt squeeling.

    Then my husband fixed the breaks. We bled them, and they seem to be
    working well accept they squeek a lot now only when stopping. My
    husband says the fluid looks black, and he showed me what it is
    supposed to look like. Not cool,...

    I wonder how much maintenance was kept up on the vehicle, (it's oil
    changes, lubes, tires etc.) as we found when replacing the breaks, they
    still had the OEM pads, etc. The rotors were eaten alive and we have
    replaced those as well.

    Current problems are as follows...

    My service engine soon light is on, was before replacing the belt, and
    stays on consistantly now.

    My breaks squeek more than I think they should when stopping.

    *** (my biggest dillemma now) There is a slight vibration at the front
    of the car when stopping, or using the break, turning etc. and when at
    lower speeds seems to vibrate more in lower gear and lose some pick up
    until it reaches maybe second gear. We almost thought this was the belt
    still slipping, but realize now that's not it.

    We are about to change the trans. fluid out with the reccommended
    fluid, not a power flush, but we assume maybe the guy who sold it to
    us, may have used the wrong fluid and replaced it before actually
    giving us the car? Hence the problem after the test drive.

    We are also anticipating giving it a tune up, but I hear the spark
    plugs (rear) are hard to get at. It is not an easy job compared to my
    Saturn, there is more of a tight fit to get at things in this one.

    The engine runs hot, although you wouldn't be able to tell by the
    needle on the dash. But when I pop the hood and use the stick that
    holds up the hood,.. I can burn myself easy, it's so hot.

    It's a V6, but I was wondering if it were normal that it uses so much
    gas?,.. seems excessive.

    I'm wishing we researched this model more before buying it.

    I just left an over 10 year old Saturn that we invested a lot of work
    into. I'm sort of disappointed with the new used Dodge since my husband
    hasn't had a weekend off since we brought it home :(


    Thanks for any advice,
    Juliet
     
    jmcoggins, Oct 9, 2006
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  2. jmcoggins

    Bob Shuman Guest

    Juliet,

    We own a 1999 Town & Country van which is pretty much identical in most
    aspects to your 1998 grand caravan. My comments are below.

    Bob

    They are BRAKES not BREAKS (unless of course they are broken).
    Typical leaks are the valve covers, the main bearing seal, and the oil pan,
    but if it is dripping on the exhaust manifold to be burned, it is likely the
    valve covers leaking.
    If you properly bled the brakes till you got clean clear fluid and used the
    correct type, then you've done all you can for now. My guess is that it was
    original fluid in there hence the color.
    I can guarantee that at 107K miles, they most certainly were not the
    original rotors or front disc pads either. My 1999 T&C goes through the
    best ceramic front pads every 22K miles. Our van is used exclusively around
    town so gets worst case brake wear since there are few to no highway miles.
    This most likely has nothing to do with the belt replacement assuming you
    did things properly. You need to have the code read to determine the reason
    the check engine light is on. Autozone will read it for free if you have
    one there close by.

    Brakes squeeking is either normal break in for the new pads and rotors, or
    could be caused by not using the correct pads. The pads for this vehicle
    should be cut at an angle on the edges. It sounds like they only squeek
    when you stop so it does not sound like a sticking caliper or lack of grease
    on the slides/pins.
    This could be due to a number of things, but from your explanation, I'd
    guess that this could be due to improper transmission fluid in the vehcile.
    This van requires ATF+4 or ATF+3 if that is not available. Accept no
    additives or other fluids. Period.
    Yes, this could be the issue. Change the filter and clean out the bottom of
    the pan when you are in there too.
    Two of the three rear plugs are difficult to access, but not impossible to
    get at from under the vehicle. Use the right plugs and don't worry for
    another 100K miles. make sure that you change the plug wires at the same
    time as they are long overdue. I have a Saturn SL in the family as one of
    our 5 vehicles. I can say that NOTHING is as easy to work on as the 4
    cylinder Saturn. You will learn that is the case regardless of what ever
    vehicle you bought. The 4 plugs and wires took me a total of 5 minutes on
    my son's vehicle. The 6 plugs and wires took about 3 hours on the van.

    I can't tell from your description if this is normal, but I can pull my
    dipstick and check oil after a long drive. I'd encourage you to thoroughly
    flush and refill the radiator. Also change out the thermostat as well.
    Our van only gets about 14 MPG around town in summer and slightly worse in
    winter. We can get 26+ on the open road at 60MPH, but this decrreases with
    higher speeds.
    ..
    You bought a pretty good vehicle. Your research should also include the
    previous owner maintenance records and history since this has a lot to do
    with the experience you will have down the road.
    Our Saturn hasd been extremely low cost to own and easy to maintain. The
    Dodge will cost more, but you got a lot more vehicle. The engine (assuming
    you have the 3.8L) is rock solid... a real workhorse. In my opinion, the
    transmission, air conditioning, front brakes, sway bar links, and starter
    solenoid are weak points, but don't detract from the overall quality.
     
    Bob Shuman, Oct 10, 2006
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  3. jmcoggins

    DeserTBoB Guest

    What the hell is wrong with people these days? "Sell" for sale,
    "breaks" for brakes, "your" for you're...has the country become THAT
    illiterate in a scant 20 years?

    SQUEALING
     
    DeserTBoB, Oct 10, 2006
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  4. jmcoggins

    cavedweller Guest

    ....the squeaking wheal gets the greese
     
    cavedweller, Oct 10, 2006
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  5. jmcoggins

    jmcoggins Guest

    I don't appreciate being called illiterate. I may have spelled a few
    words wrong because I was rushing,... but more importantly "ignorance"
    is worse than being "illiterate" as you did not offer any valuable
    information to my situation!
     
    jmcoggins, Oct 10, 2006
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  6. jmcoggins

    jmcoggins Guest

    Thanks... Bob Shuman :) Here is what the guy down the road told me,...

    Has P1494 LDP failure, not to be concerned with at this time. Has a
    P0305 cyl #5 misfire code. Transmission doesn't shift out of first. Max
    is 30mph. Misfire might need a tune up on it, but might also be valve
    issues that dictate new cylinder heads. Has timing belt been done?

    Juliet
     
    jmcoggins, Oct 10, 2006
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  7. jmcoggins

    jmcoggins Guest

    I love ya Bob for trying to correct the world :)
     
    jmcoggins, Oct 10, 2006
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  8. jmcoggins

    jmcoggins Guest

    I love ya Bob for trying to correct the world :)
     
    jmcoggins, Oct 10, 2006
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  9. jmcoggins

    Bob Shuman Guest

    Juliet,

    Remove and replace the plugs with the correct OEM recommended (I like
    Champions) plug. Check the old plugs for carbon build up or oil fouling. I
    suspect they are original so need to be replaced. If not, then oil fouling
    may signify some other issues. The old plugs and wires could well be the
    cause of your misfire and check engine light. Make sure that you replace
    the plug wires at the same time. Also throw a bottle of good fuel injector
    cleaner into the tank too to clean the injectors. (I use Techron.)

    If you have the 3.3 or 3.8L engine, then there is no timing belt and the
    engine uses a chain. If you have a 3.0L, then yes, it has a belt, but I did
    not think that engine came in the grand version. If it is a 3.3 or 3.8L,
    then the guy you spoke with does not know Chrysler products very well so
    find someone else to service the vehicle.

    On the transmission not shifting correctly, drain the old fluid, clean the
    pan completely and change the filter if there is any chance whatsoever that
    someone used anything other than Chrysler approved ATF+3 or ATF+4. Try that
    first as it is fairly simple and cheap. If that does not improve the
    situation, then you'll need to have the trans scanned at a reputable service
    center that has experience with Chrysler electronic transmissions. It could
    have a sensor or solenoid problem. If changing the fluid helps some, but
    there are still some residual symptoms, then repeat the process or get the
    power flush to replace all the fluid (dropping the pan and changing gets
    about half since half stays in the lines, torque converter, etc.)

    Good luck.

    Bob
     
    Bob Shuman, Oct 10, 2006
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  10. jmcoggins

    Steve Guest

    Apparently so. Its gotten to the point that I can hardly understand some
    newsgroup posts these days. Its a silly text-messaging
    devote-half-a-brain-to-it mentality that can't take the time to be
    precise, and then gets all bent out of shape when you can't answer the
    ill-constructed and impenetrable questions.
     
    Steve, Oct 10, 2006
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  11. jmcoggins

    DeserTBoB Guest

    This goes beyond text messaging. For about 15 years or so, even
    before the era of "txting," I've seen the previously mentioned
    mistakes more and more, especially from certain areas of the country.
    "Sell" instead of "sale" is now very prevalent in the deep South, as
    is "set" for sat or even the present tense "sit" which have been
    around for a long, long time. However, "your" for you're is becoming
    almost universal, especially if the author has a high school education
    or less.

    Another common gaffe with these people: I'mproper use of
    contractions, such as "Rage'n" for "raging" and others. There's
    actually a line of pricey motorhomes how with "Race'n" plastered all
    over the back. Incredible! People who spell/misuse like this should
    have NO comment about other such weaknesses as "ebonics." Both are
    equally bad.
     
    DeserTBoB, Oct 11, 2006
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  12. Let's not forget the Charlie Nudo classics, "dildow" and "hearsay".
     
    Charlie Deludo, Oct 11, 2006
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  13. jmcoggins

    DeserTBoB Guest

    "Heresay". Let's not forget his latest, making a whole new verb:
    "dildowing: v. The act of Charlie Nudo using a dildow."
     
    DeserTBoB, Oct 11, 2006
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