97 Chrysler LHS ... where does this spring go ? (pic)

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by buddy, Jul 5, 2006.

  1. buddy

    buddy Guest

    I just finished replacing my lower intake manifold to fix a P0305 code
    (#5 cylinder misfire) per advice from this group. Seems to have fixed
    it, I started it and let it run a few minutes and no CEL.
    Unfortunately I smell a little gas so I might have to take the upper
    off again and use new o-rings for the fuel injectors.

    I had this part leftover, a spring. Here's a photo:

    http://www.idcomm.com/personal/buddyboy/spring-3.jpg

    I found it in the rear area where the throttle bodies and the rod which
    connects them are.

    Anyome know where it goes ?

    Thanks,
    Buddy

    PS If you're a Patsy Cline fan, use the above url but get the file
    crazy.mp3 It's my wife doing one of her classics
     
    buddy, Jul 5, 2006
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    Ken Weitzel Guest

    Hi Buddy...

    Not a mechanic, not even close - so I don't know how to
    describe it properly to you, but I recognize it.

    It's part of a set of three, all similar.

    One on each side of the throttle bodies... if you only have
    one spring left over that means you have at least one in it's
    place. Make both sides the same :)

    If both are there, then the third is on the outside of the
    same shaft so to speak, on the driver's side, but on the
    outside of the throttle body.

    Pretty sure you're gonna get a better answer, but I'll check
    in the morning and if by some chance there isn't I'll take a
    pic of mine and give you a link to it.

    Take care.

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Jul 5, 2006
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Certainly looks like a torsion spring for the throttle body to me too.

    Hey Buddy - I couldn't figure out what you meant about 'Crazy' (didn't
    hear it or see a link from that URL), but - yes - I am a Patsy Cline fan
    and already have it along with an awesome Patsy's "Greatest Hits" album
    I downloaded off of iTunes.

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jul 5, 2006
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    Ken Weitzel Guest


    Hi...

    I owe Buddy an apology... my old memory just ain't what it used
    to be. Those three are all quite different! :(

    Try to make up for it; took a picture of mine (94 3.5) this morning,
    and here it is so that he can see the difference for himself and
    make doubly sure that he has all three in the right place :)

    http://www.members.shaw.ca/kweitzel/spring.jpg

    A big picture (150k) so that he can view it full size and scroll
    around to see pretty good detail.

    Take care.

    Ken
     
    Ken Weitzel, Jul 5, 2006
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  5. buddy

    buddy Guest

    Thanks so much! Very clear - it goes on outside of driver-side TB.
    The two on the TB's (inside) never came off.
     
    buddy, Jul 5, 2006
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  6. buddy

    buddy Guest

    I meant to replace filenames. So the full link is:

    http://www.idcomm.com/personal/buddyboy/crazy.mp3

    My wife's from another county and her family misses her so we record
    songs at home to send to her folks. She has a noticeable accent when
    speaking, but for some reason it 'disappears' when she sings.

    There are a couple more there, from-this-moment.mp3 and
    unchained-melody.mp3

    Buddy
     
    buddy, Jul 5, 2006
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    buddy Guest

    As I said I smelled a little gas and so I thought it was because I
    didn't replace the injector o-rings when I did the lower manifold
    gasket. Well I got new o-rings and put them on. But when I got
    everything back together and started the car, it was spraying gas all
    over! I was in the driver seat so I couldn't see exactly where it was
    coming from, just the general area of the fuel rails.

    So I took the upper manifold off (I'm getting faster at it) and
    checked everything again. Injectors fully in. Rails bolted on
    straight and snug. Upper manifold ditto. Put together, started car,
    same thing. Saw gas spraying. Little pools of gas below the rails,
    along whole length.

    Here's some "info".

    1. To get the injectors out I twisted them with pliers, then was able
    to pull them straight out. Did I break something by twisting instead
    of just straight up? They are in straight and snug, all lower and
    upper o-rings seated well.

    2. The metal line in front, with the relief valve in it, moves up/down
    a little - is it supposed to do this?

    Thank you for any guidance.

    Buddy
     
    buddy, Jul 9, 2006
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Might it be worth having a helper, while you are looking at the engine
    with the hood up, to start the engine just long enough for you to see
    exactly where the leak is?

    Bill Putney
    (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with the letter 'x')
     
    Bill Putney, Jul 9, 2006
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