97 Caravan Leaking Oil

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by fixer, Aug 10, 2006.

  1. fixer

    fixer Guest

    My Dodge Caravan is leaking quite a bit of oil here are the symptoms so
    far:
    -mileage is just over 200000 km.
    -oil pressure lights turns on and oil has to be added.
    -walking past the van after a drive, oil smell is noticeable at the
    front
    -ocassionally van is burning oil upon starting the engine, this does
    not appear to happen every time maybe when I am parked on an incline.
    This has occurred twice so far.

    I have researched this and have opened the front "rocker cover baffle"
    and attempted to clean the drain hole. I have not done this for the
    rear cover yet.

    Any suggestion would be most appreciated and thanks in advance.
     
    fixer, Aug 10, 2006
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  2. fixer

    NewMan Guest

    If you want to solve oill leak problems, here is how!

    #1 - Take the van to an Auto Detailing shop. Have them do a full
    engine shampoo.

    #2 - Take the van to your mechanical shop. Have them do an oil change,
    and then add a "UV Tracer" to the oil.

    #3 - Drive the van for a week.

    #4 - Take the van back to your shop. They will illumiate the engine
    with a "black light" and every single little spot where oil is leaking
    will show up clear as daylight.

    You can then get an idea of how much it is going to cost to fix the
    various leaks, and which ones are more serious. From there you can set
    your priorities as to what you want to get fixed first.

    You did not say which engine you have. I have the 3.3. The front crank
    seal on these engines is a common oil leak problem. Fortuantely it is
    not a complicated job. The most complicated thing about it being that
    the harminc balancer needs to be removed to get at the seal. The whole
    job should be less than $100 including all parts, labour, shop
    charges, and taxes.

    Note that using the UV tracer will clearly show if the crank seal is
    leaking or not.

    hth
     
    NewMan, Aug 10, 2006
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  3. fixer

    fixer Guest

    Thanks for the excellent suggestion. Can I purchase the UV Tracer my
    self?

    btw, I have 3.0 L engine, I think by Mitsubishi.
     
    fixer, Aug 10, 2006
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  4. fixer

    NewMan Guest

    My shop did not charge me anything for putting the tracer in! Of
    course, they did get the work of replacing the crank seal as well, so
    they did not "lose money" on the deal either. But if you insist, just
    check your local auto supply shop. They gotta have the stuff. It is
    just a little sealed pouch. You tear off the end and squeeze it like a
    tube into the engine oil. If my shop did not charge for it, then I bet
    that it costs less than $5, heck maybe even less than $1, but you will
    have to check into it since I don't know.

    OUCH! That DAMN 3.0 litre Mitsubishi! I had one in a 1994 Acclaim, and
    I gave up on it. The one I had ran like a piece of crap. I constantly
    had problems with it running rough in "wet" weather. Why the heck any
    engine of that vintage would have a Distributor is beyond me!

    And don't get me started about the way it literally PUKED oil! I mean
    really puked it! It used to be pull into the gas station, fill up the
    oil and check the gas! I could always tell where my car had been
    because there was literally a TRAIL of oil left behind! I sold that
    car about 4 years ago, and there is STILL a HUGE oil stain in my
    parking space from it. :(

    Every Chrysler I have had since has had the 3.3 litre engine - and
    that was NO ACCIDENT! The 3.3 is a work horse - and, unlike the 3.0
    Mitsubishi, has NO TIMING BELT to have to screw around with!

    Sorry to hear about your engine. I hope things go better for you than
    they did for me with that thing. It will be a cold day in hell before
    I ever own a car with the 3.0 mitsubishi in it ever again.
     
    NewMan, Aug 10, 2006
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  5. fixer

    maxpower Guest

    Glenn <<<<<<<<<<<Has a question. What engine? 3.0?
     
    maxpower, Aug 10, 2006
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  6. fixer

    maxpower Guest

    Common problems with the 3.0 with high mileage...... the valve cover gaskets
    get hard and they leak bad, the cam shaft seals will leak along with the
    crank seal. The valve guide seals will get hard and cause the engine to
    smike at idle, and the head gaskets will deteriate as the vehicle ages
    especially if the coolant wasnt serviced at regular basis. My sugestion is
    if you are planning to keep this vehicle for awhile, have the heads removed
    and sealed from the top including valve stem oil seals
    There is no need to clean out the baffle on that year vehicle. that problem
    has been fixed in the early 90's and it didnt effect the rear cover.


    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Aug 10, 2006
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  7. fixer

    fixer Guest

    Thanks to everyone for your excellent input. This gives me a lot to
    think about.

    Any good links on changing the gaskets and the level of difficulty. I
    do not want to spend a bundle on such an old van.

    Thanks again.
     
    fixer, Aug 10, 2006
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  8. fixer

    NewMan Guest

    I would get it cleaned and do the UV tracer just to baseline what
    needs to be done.

    But if the head gasket needs to be done.... well that is a BIG job and
    not cheap. Other stuff might not be so bad (maybe). But ripping the
    top-end off an overhead cam engine... Not something I would attempt at
    home.
     
    NewMan, Aug 10, 2006
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    philthy Guest

    the pcv system was not maintained and the oil seals were all blown out by
    crankcase pressure. so start by servicing the pcv system and make sure it has
    good vac. flow them clean engine and do th euv test but i would bet the oil
    pan is leaking and so is the the valve cover gaskets as well as the cam seal
    plugs
     
    philthy, Aug 12, 2006
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