96 Grand Caravan Blowing Ignition Coils

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by cincirollers, Jun 27, 2007.

  1. cincirollers

    cincirollers Guest

    I have a 96 Dodge Grand Caravan 3.3L V6 w/ 140K miles. Engine
    suddenly began running rough, check engine light came on, and vehicle
    stalled after another minute or so. Mechanic replaced Cam Sensor and
    Ignition Coil. Vehicle started up and ran fine for about five miles
    and then same thing happened. Based on code 351, Ignition Coil again
    replaced and vehicle again started and ran fine for about five miles
    before happening a third time. Code again shows 351. What is causing
    this?
     
    cincirollers, Jun 27, 2007
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  2. I'd bet crank sensor. It's not bad practice to replace both cam and
    crank sensor as a set. You see what happens is over time the fine
    wiring in the sensors cracks. Then when they heat up, the wires are
    spread apart and the sensor stops working. When one of them goes the
    other is close to going too.

    A decent mechanic would have used a scope on all of the engine sensors
    and the ignition coil, when
    the engine was hot, before replacing any of them. Sounds like your mechanic
    is a "parts changer" I'll bet your first coil had nothing wrong with it.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Jun 28, 2007
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  3. cincirollers

    bllsht Guest

    Your "mechanic" is an idiot.

    P0351 doesn't mean the coil is no good. It means the PCM has detected
    a problem in the #1 coil circuit. It "could" be caused by a bad coil,
    but there are other possibilities such as wiring problems or even the
    PCM. Find somebody competent and have it checked properly.

    A crank sensor will not cause this.
     
    bllsht, Jun 29, 2007
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  4. cincirollers

    maxpower Guest

    The ignition coil is supplied 12 volts by the ASD relay to ignition coil
    primary circuit 1-2 and 3.The PCM controls all 3 primary circuits by
    grounding each circuit. The problem could have been a bad coil, but it
    sounds as if the first pot shot was already thrown at it and didn't fix it.
    The second shot taking was so far off it is silly. The crank sensor will not
    effect this circuit. You need to find another person to work on this vehicle
    or go by your self a DVO meter and fix it your self. Since the vehicle is
    running we know that there is 12v coming from the ASD circuit feeding the
    primary 2 and 3 side therefore we need to look for a bad wire/terminal from
    the coil gray wire at the coil connector to the PCM connector pin #11. if
    this wire is not open circuit from point A to point B then we know the PCM
    is bad and needs to be replaced. If you had a scan tool you could activate
    the Primary 1 circuit and the PCM would make and break the ground. such an
    easy test to make and diagnose. If the problem was intermittent it may be
    hard to diagnose. Since your vehicle is a hard fault and running bad at the
    time of the test it should have been diagnosed in 15 min.

    Glenn Beasley
    Chrysler Tech
     
    maxpower, Jun 29, 2007
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