95 Concord 3.5 Cold Start Problem

Discussion in 'Concorde' started by Dodgem33, May 4, 2004.

  1. Dodgem33

    Dodgem33 Guest

    When the temp is 35 or colder it wont start, it tries. When the temp is
    warmer fires right up and runs great. I got fault code for lean 02 sensor
    and replaced them both. I get no fault codes(12) but nothing for the EMC.
    Are there any other ways of checking out the computer? I have the shop
    manual but not the electronics addendum. Thanx.
     
    Dodgem33, May 4, 2004
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  2. Dodgem33

    Snydley Guest

    I had a bad idle when cold problem on an '89 Shadow 2.5 L. It showed no
    codes. Someone told me to re-torque the throttle body to the manifold, and
    that straightened it right out. I don't know if it will help you, but it
    won't cost you anything, and it may work. What was happening in my
    cicumstance is that when it was cold it idled terribly, (there was a slight
    air leak between the throttle body and the manifold and it ran too lean).
    Once it warmed up the parts expanded and it ran great. Re-torquing the
    throttle body fixed it right up.
     
    Snydley, May 4, 2004
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  3. Dodgem33

    Steve Guest

    Further probing of the computer requires a scan-tool.

    That said, there are a few possiblilites that spring to mind. If you
    make the assumption that, "Hmm, maybe those O2 sensors weren't really
    bad, but were actually SEEING a lean mixture..." there are a few things
    that can cause that while leaving drivability pretty much normal. Check
    the fuel pressure and see if its in spec. The computer doesn't actually
    measure the volume of fuel it injects, it makes an assumption about what
    the fuel pressure is and then gates the injectors long enough to put in
    the right amount of fuel. If the fuel pressure is low, the mixture will
    be lean. IF the fuel pressure bleeds off overnight, that can further
    aggravate cold starting first thing in the AM. If the fuel pressure is
    in spec, you might have a vacuum leak somewhere that could lean it out
    enough to make starting difficult. Also, the charge air temperature
    sensor or the computer's coolant temperature sensor could be faking the
    computer into always thinking the engine or intake air is hotter than it
    really is, and the computer would lean out to compensate (or more
    specifically, fail to enrich enough to start when its cold.)
     
    Steve, May 4, 2004
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