94 Caravan - fuel pump won't run

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by cavis4, Dec 17, 2004.

  1. cavis4

    SN Guest

    Grounds are good, but no power on pin 3 with key on.
    I agree with D.S., trace the Red/White wire back to the battery. Looking at
    the 1991 wiring diagram, I'll bet it's very similar with the possible
    exception of a fuse instead of a fusible link. It should be powered at all
    times, not just when the ignition is on. The diagram shows that pin #3 has a
    red/white wire that goes back to a 22 gauge white fusible link, then changes
    to a 10 gauge red, then to a junction at a 6 gauge black (battery feed).
    Trace it back and find where you're loosing continuity.
     
    SN, Dec 19, 2004
    #21
  2. cavis4

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    It may have been mentioned already, but I can't find it in the
    old posts. Which engine is in this thing?

    I'll print the wiring diagram and post which pins have battery
    voltage and which pins are powered by the ignition switch.

    But I need to know which engine for your benefit so you don't go
    on a wild goose chase.
     
    aarcuda69062, Dec 19, 2004
    #22
  3. He's got the Mitsu 3.0
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 19, 2004
    #23
  4. cavis4

    cavis4 Guest

    It's the 3.0 V6, 2WD.

    Thanks for the help.

    KC
     
    cavis4, Dec 19, 2004
    #24
  5. cavis4

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Okay, a 3.0 it is...
    Pin 3 gets 12 volt battery feed via the 15 amp 'engine' fuse in
    the underhood power distribution center.
    This should be 12 volts all the time.

    Pin 9 is 12 volts ignition feed (ignition switched) via the 10
    amp #16 fuse in the instrument panel fuse block.
    This should be 12 volts with the ignition in the start or run
    position.

    Pins 11 and 12 are power grounds.
     
    aarcuda69062, Dec 19, 2004
    #25
  6. cavis4

    cavis4 Guest

    It's supposed to be above 5 degrees this evening, so I'll try to get
    back to it. I seem to remember at least 2 other pins being switched
    12V, though - maybe like 31-32, or 32-33? It sounds like pin 3 is the
    problem child, though.

    KC
     
    cavis4, Dec 20, 2004
    #26
  7. cavis4

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Pin 31 is 'Low speed fan relay'.
    Pin 32 is empty.
    Pin 33 is for 'cruise control'.

    If pin 3 is dead, and the engine fuse in the PDC has no voltage
    on either side, I'd be checking inside the PDC for a broken buss.
     
    aarcuda69062, Dec 20, 2004
    #27
  8. cavis4

    maxpower Guest

    Check the ignition switch, check the bulk head connector, for 12 volts on
    both inside and outside of it,
     
    maxpower, Dec 20, 2004
    #28
  9. cavis4

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    The ignition switch has nothing to do with B+ voltage on pin 3 of
    the PCM.
     
    aarcuda69062, Dec 21, 2004
    #29
  10. cavis4

    cavis4 Guest

    Found it. The red/white wire feeding B+ to pin 3 of the SBEC was
    corroded badly about 5 inches from the SBEC. I was pulling on it to
    get a little slack to jumper it, and it broke. Green copper doesn't
    conduct well, apparently. Strange place to corrode, but there it was.
    I jumpered it to the correct fuse in the box (soldered, heatshrinked,
    and taped), and it started right up.

    Thanks to all you guys for the help, especially Daniel Stern and
    aarcuda. Trying to fix electrical problems is next to impossible
    without the factory wiring diagrams. Plus, a logical approach to
    troubleshooting really helps.

    Signing off for now
    KC
     
    cavis4, Dec 21, 2004
    #30
  11. cavis4

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Excellent!
     
    aarcuda69062, Dec 22, 2004
    #31
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