93 Acclaim Axel Boot problem

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by D, Jul 1, 2004.

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    D Guest

    I noticed that a boot has tore off the axel on the inner side of the
    end of the axel that goes into the transmission. I just bought this
    car and I've been noticing a loud humming type noise whenever I go
    around a left curve while accelerating. Obviously the boot will need
    to be replaced, but does anybody know if the drive shaft or anything
    else will have to be replaced? How much labor do you think I would be
    looking at for a job like this and would this be something that I
    could do myself. I live in Mississippi. Thanks. DJ
     
    D, Jul 1, 2004
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    Ted Guest

    R U a troll?

    Seems DS answered this for you at the beginning of May,, however for the
    benefit of new readers I will repost his answer..hope I have his
    permission..


    My '91, first '92 and recently-purchased second '92 all did this. The
    noise wasn't *loud*, but it was present. If yours is loud, it's because
    the engine mounts are worn, off center, or both. The mounts on these cars
    are not fixed; when certain bolts are loosened they allow the engine to be
    shifted laterally by a surprisingly large amount. There is a procedure for
    centering them properly, and this should be followed if you're to get
    maximum life from your exhaust pipe-to-manifold junction/gasket (and
    freedom from noises on left turns). Assuming your mounts are in good
    condition -- which they may not be, given the car is over a decade old --
    your engine is too far over to the right.
    OK, that means (a) the other two engine mounts and the rear transaxle
    mount are probably similarly tired, and (b) you may not have realized the
    importance of re-centering the engine after replacing any of the mounts.
    That's your transfer gears in the transaxle's final-drive. Most of these
    cars make this noise, and in most cases it is not at all loud. If it is
    loud, it is either because sagged-out engine/trans mounts are allowing
    contact between the engine/trans and the body, or because something is
    seriously wrong with the transfer gears. Since the transfer gears usually
    don't fail, I suspect the former.

    DS
     
    Ted, Jul 1, 2004
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  3. Depending how long it's been like that, you may get away with just a new
    boot or you may need a new inner CV joint (or, more commonly, a rebuilt
    left halfshaft).
    What was the matter with the detailed info I gave you on this problem when
    you reported it in early May?
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jul 1, 2004
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    Since the CV joint seems to have gotten noisy, you'll probably need to
    replace the half-shaft. I don't know what you can and can't do;
    that's a job I've done before (once when I spotted the torn boot
    before the CV joint was damaged, and I was able to rebuild it!).
    Take a look in your factory service manual and see how feasible it
    looks to you.

    The one thing to *not* do is replace the dead boot with an EZ-boot, or
    whatever they call those split boots that you can put on the
    half-shaft without pulling it. There are two reasons for this:
    first, your CV joint needs to be rebuilt or your half-shaft replaced,
    so the half-shaft has to come out for the job anyway. Second,
    EZ-boots are crap that are broken by design.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Jul 1, 2004
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  5. The split boots are junk, but there are non-split type replacement boots
    that work quite well. If the old boot is caught in time, and the CVJ is in
    good shape, no reason not to put on a new boot and keep driving.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jul 1, 2004
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    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    Sorry I wasn't clear: I didn't mean to imply he shouldn't replace the
    boot, just that he shouldn't use an EZ-boot. But, I don't think I'd
    want to just slap on a new boot and keep driving: once the integrity
    of the seal is breached, I wouldn't want to trust the joint to have
    not gotten contaminated. And once I've taken the half-shaft out,
    rebuilding the joint is a comaparitively small task. I'd *really*
    hate to just replace the boot, and find out in a few thousand miles
    that I needed to have rebuilt the CV joint!
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Jul 2, 2004
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    Bill Putney Guest

    Maybe most (all?) would also agree here that *IF* you could trust
    aftermarket sources for quality rebuilt half axles, because your time is
    worth something (literally true in a job shop situation), it would be a
    reasonable decision to replace the half axle even if all that's needed
    is a joint cleaning, repacking, and rebooting, but because of the risk
    of getting lousy rebuilts, it might be worth refurbing the original half
    shaft even if the labor makes that route cost a little more. One could
    argue that *IF* he finds a reliable source for quality rebuilts, that
    the philosophy would be "when in doubt, replace the half shaft". Some
    claim that NAPA is such a source, and I tend to believe it based on
    limited (DIY) personal experience and what I have read on some forums.

    Bill Putney
    (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
    address with "x")
     
    Bill Putney, Jul 2, 2004
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