93 3.3 DRB II Scan tool

You expected anything brighter/better from "maxpower"...?

 

But your buddy Darryl claimed that it would. Now, with both of
you being the pride <chuckle> of Dodge and Chrysler dealerships
world wide, don't you think that there should be some agreement
in the claims that the two of you make?

No, you don't understand that. if you did, you wouldn't have
been insisting otherwise, which is exactly what you've been doing
all though this discussion contrary to the fact that the OP was
inquiring about a DRB 2* not a DRB 3*
(* 2* and 3* used because ol' Glen is having eyeball problems.)

It reads a very abbreviated list of values and codes, a minor
point that would certainly leave the OP dissatisfied should he
wish to expand his usage even a little bit.

No Glen, it's called providing information. Since all you work
on is Chrysler, your advice WRT a capitol piece of equipment is
based upon very limited knowledge. The bullshit happens when guys
like you with tunnel vision start insisting that what YOU are
familiar with is better than what someone else who DOES work on
all makes knows, and that is on top of the fact that I used to
sell about one million dollars worth of this stuff every year.


<<you just gotta

Which pretty much makes it as useful as tits on a fish.

Is that supposed to mean something?

 

I guess we'll have to wait until he's moved up from the wash rack
to new car prep.

 

Visualize using your brain.

 

yea it means alot, grow up

 

Sucks being the shop dunce, eh?

 

Let me spell it out, You independent guys were always threatened by the
dealer, you always thought you were being unfair, left out and you felt
unwanted. Now that someone comes in the news group that knows what they are
doing, you guys feel threatened again, like little children having your
lolly pop taken away.. I have read so many replys that make no sense whats
so ever, but noticed the independents dont worry about them because they
arent threatened, Mr voltmeter, or Daniel complains of my typing and
punctuation and anyhting that he see's. It really is ashame that you guys
feel so threatened. i wont take any work away from you guys, or try to take
away your SAE standards. I know we cant give you all everything that we have
in our testers, and we are trying to make all the values and sensors the
same. We are trying to make all the books the same. You just relax, I know
the cars are getting harder and more complicated to work on for you all, But
as they come out, we will still try and find the problems and put out the
TSB's for you all to make it easy, In the mean time, if you dont want to
feel threatened by me, Hey dont read my Posts, ask your kids, they can
probably tell you that. Darn I forgot to capitalizean "I" now what ?

 

yea i know i used it to show a misifre on a ford with a bad coil pac

 

Oooo, this ought to be good.

Funny, every time the subject comes up in industry publications,
it's the other way around. GM, Ford and Chrysler are spending
millions of dollars trying to woo the customers back to the
dealership service department. And honestly, why would anyone
feel threatened by a situation where line mechanics have to give
a manufacturer a 33% discount on their labors?
Are all the Ford dealership mechanics in St. Louis still on
strike over labor times Glen? Should I be threatened by that?

We always thought we were being unfair?
I always thought I were being unfair?

Is the above statement of your supposed to make sense?

Someone who knows what they are doing?
Where? When?

You know, it's funny that you bring up lolly pops, because that
exactly reminds me of your little DRB3 diatribe. Little Glen
wants to show off his lolly pop.

You know what, so have I?
Like just within the last day or so, someone posted a reply to
someone who is having engine trouble and the person having
trouble remarked that the right side exhaust pipe is stone cold
and that they had a vacuum on the right side exhaust pipe, but
the person offering advice said that they doubted that it could
be a cam timing problem. Maybe you missed that particular
exchange... ... oh wait, you were part of it.
Yup, no sense what so ever. especially since it takes all of 10
minutes to verify cam timing on a 3.5 liter LH car.

Is it any wonder, especially since you managed to make a
contraction out of the word "see?"

Trust me, I don't feel threatened, I do feel embarrassed however.

You mean like the customer a few weeks ago? He went to the Dodge
dealer with his 2001 Ram 1500 4X4 for a loose steering complaint
three different times, they couldn't or wouldn't help him.
Three different times he asked them to TAKE his money.
He got my name from a co-worker, the truck needed new tie rod
ends and a track bar. Nice fat juicy job that the dealership
didn't get or didn't want. (why would they turn down gravy front
end work?)
Or how about the 97 Tahoe with the SES light on and failed
emissions because of said light being on, dealership told her she
needed two new cats and all four O2 sensors, damn near $2000 on
the estimate. Luckily her father is a friend of mine and he sent
her over, did some tests, hung a fuel filter on it, drove it
until the monitors had run and ran it thru the test station for
her, all for under $100. Yeah Glen, I feel -real- threatened.
Please, keep using that ball point pen to fix cars 'cause I'm
loving every minute of it.

Our what?

We?
FWIW, I already have the testers.

Oh, good. I was worried because about twelve years ago, I turned
down a job with the company Chrysler sub-contracts their training
out to. Glad to see that it's being handled.

We? I remind you, you are just a dealership shlep, and you know
full well that the service department is the asshole of the
dealership.

Actually, given the level of diagnostic capability, I think
they're getting easier. Hell, the information I want from my AAR
is a hell of a lot harder to come by when compared to plugging
into the diagnostic port of my Intrepid or my Dakota.
Of course, I can see how someone such as yourself with a
comprehension problem might feel that way.

Really, have you authored many TSBs Glen?
Some how, I doubt it.

" Capitalizean?"

Folks, this is the man who [didn't] fix your car while it was
under warranty, are there any questions?

Ahh, that Chrysler could only see the efforts you go to to make
bad PR.

 

Really Darryl?

What model and year was it?

 

No it does not. I have an e-mail from OTC directly on this, Chrysler did
not release ABS info for either the Bendix 10 or the Bendix 4 (which I
have) OTC has no tool that will bleed them.

You don't need a tool to bleed ABS unless the system gets air in it. Once
the
ABS unit gets air in it you can only bleed it properly by opening all the
selonoids with a DRB. Presumably if your on top of the brakes, and
catch leaks early, this won't happen.

No big deal, the cable uses a standard DIN, I wouldn't be much of a tech if
I
couldn't make an extension cable myself now, would I?

It's just the moronic positioning of the engine connector in the
compartment, instead
of under the dash like everyone else.

Ted

 

An intelligent person would have picked this up easy when you asked about
Chrysler warranty pay and my comment was that my ink pen still works for me.
You use you ink pen (and for those lame people that dont undertsand) that
means documenting the RO for Chrysler to pay you, if you dont write it up ,
you dont get paid.Perfect example of analyzing what I post to degrade

Now that someone comes in the news group that knows what they are
doing, you guys feel threatened again, like little children having your
lolly pop taken away.. Trying to get other to help with you degrade, Im
sure you will find a few to help out, but if I could only cut and paste some
of the e mails that I get from other posters in here about you and a few
others,,,,,,,,,,,it would really wake you up and let you see what people
think of you

And once again another example<<<theres a space missing between capitalize (an) "I" now what? <<<<but then
again, im starting to relizethngs anout you.. this is my last comment to
you, I dont normally play your games this long, maybe when you grow up and
dont feel so threatened you can try again.
Have a good weekend, I hope I didnt ruin it for you

 

Yes, an intelligent person -would- have.
You didn't, still haven't. Guess what that makes you?

So, all one has to do is "write it up."
Any questions folks?
(you're doing fine Glen ;-)
Here's a hint Glen; I've spent many years working in dealerships
right next to mechanics exactly like you, guys who's number one
tool is the pen, they fix nothing but they sure have the system
locked down pat. They're not even considered to be a one trick
pony, they're more like a zero trick pony.

Again, what is it exactly that you are taking away?

You comprehend so poorly... I am merely showing people (with
your help) how things work on the dealership end of auto repair.

Yeah, if only you could cut and paste. Complicated task, that.
Any questions folks?

Now I explain that such habits are a strong indicator of someone
who is lazy, pays no attention to detail and can't be bothered to
perform the job completely. I explain that someone who has yet
to master skills taught in the third grade, is unlikely to be
able to perform the necessary tasks to properly repair a modern
vehicle.

<<<<but then

Again, what exactly is it that I'm being threatened by?
You? Hah.
Darryl? Hah-hah!

The only thing that could ruin my weekend would be the prospect
of spending one more minute working in another dealership.

 

full size van with a 5.4 2001

 

Sorry, no coil "pac" on that vehicle.

Try again.

 

O yea volt meter, you left out the "S' in insane, you may want to retype it,
that may cause your buddies on to freak out

 

it was a while ago so i might have the year wrong but it was there on a van
with a 5.4
i also got 8.0 for replacing plugs removal of intake a help but not nessary
is the same neil of Wisconsin that has numinous complaints against his
certs???
just wondering

 

i was also wondering when i gods name were you going to stop picking fights
and start offering some real advice here
seems to me only fools quarrel and you seem to do that the most

 

I will state it again; The Ford 5.4 liter engine doesn't use and
has never used "coil packs."

Do we even want to know who financed that rip off?

What "certs?" There is no such thing as "certs' in Wisconsin.

Yeah, me too. I'm wondering if both of these stories are a
figment of your imagination or if they're the bald faced lies
they appear to be.

 

What's the matter, am I making you uncomfortable every time I
catch you in a lie?

No "coil packs" on a Ford 5.4 liter V-8, never has been.

Ya know Darryl, if you're going to tell tall tales, you should
research the subject a little better.

As for offering advice, I do. Contrary to your buddy Glen who
totally choked on that 96 LHS that barely ran, hell, he was
selling them cam and crank sensors that they didn't need.

You dealership guys crack me up, if there isn't a trouble code or
a TSB, you're LOST!