92 Plymouth Acclaim

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Ron Stewart, Dec 12, 2004.

  1. Ron Stewart

    Ron Stewart Guest

    Trying to put a diagnoses on this problem.
    Whilel driving my 92 acclaim home it started Missing and had lose of power
    uphill.Although the car never overheated the temp gauge did go past
    midpoint.
    I checked the spark Plugs and regaped them ,but they looked and seemed fine.
    once I get the car started at a idle out of gear it doesn't seem to bad,but
    when i put it in gear and get it some gas it bucks and bangs.
    there is no Water in the Oil,
    I'm no mechanic,just wondering if the Car has had it,any help would be
    appreaicated.
    Thanks
    Ron
     
    Ron Stewart, Dec 12, 2004
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  2. Ron Stewart

    Dave Gower Guest


    Have you checked the oil to see if it has any coolant in it, or the coolant
    for oil? That will tell you if you have a head gasket failure. If that's OK,
    one easy and cheap thing you could do is a good quality injector cleaner in
    the gas. You can get that at any decent auto parts place. Make sure it is
    recommended for your type of car, fuel systems vary.

    Beyond that, you need to get the codes read. This is not difficult but
    requires a shop manual and some technical knowledge, so you need to have it
    done at a competent shop. It may be only a sensor, but you need a diagnosis
    to know for sure.
     
    Dave Gower, Dec 12, 2004
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  3. Ron Stewart

    maxpower Guest

    sounds like a secondary ignition misfire, plugs. wires?? spray water on the
    wires to see if it starts breaking down under load, if so replace em
     
    maxpower, Dec 12, 2004
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  4. Ron Stewart

    Ron Stewart Guest

    Thanks for the advice,I did mention in my first post that the Oil was free
    of coolant and coolant free of Oil.
    I did run the car at a Idle with the Radiator Cap off it did not bubble up
    but it did come to the top of radiator into the overflow tank which seemed
    normal not sure with it not being under pressure.
    Will try the fuel injector cleaner and check the wires.
    Thank You Gentlemen for your reply.
     
    Ron Stewart, Dec 12, 2004
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  5. Well, the first thing to do is to check the computer codes.

    To check the computer codes:

    With the engine off, switch the ignition key on-off-on-off-on,
    leaving it "ON". Do not
    go to "start", just "on" during this procedure.

    Watch the "Check Engine" or "Power Loss" light. It will turn on, then go
    off, then will begin to flash-out any trouble codes that have been stored.
    For instance, if it flashes:

    flash <pause> flash flash
    <long pause>
    flash flash flash <pause> flash flash flash flash flash
    <long pause>
    flash flash flash flash flash <pause> flash flash flash flash flash

    Then you have a 12 (one flash followed by two) a 35 (three and five) and a
    55 (five and five). 55 means "end of codes" or, if by itself, "No codes
    stored. Check the codes and report what you find.

    The next thing to do is to tell us how long it's been since the timing
    belt was replaced.

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 12, 2004
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  6. Ron Stewart

    Ron Stewart Guest

    Ok will try to do this this week. Thanks
    Ron
     
    Ron Stewart, Dec 12, 2004
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  7. Ron Stewart

    damnnickname Guest

    Not a timing belt problem, if the timing belt was off by one tooth it would
    throw the map sensor way off and cause low vacuum, what does low vacuum
    tell the computer DS?? it tells the computer that you are under a load and
    to give it more fuel, what does more fuel do at idle DS? it makes it run
    really bad. his complaint is under a load and idles good
    Secondary ignition
     
    damnnickname, Dec 15, 2004
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  8. Well, whoever you are, you get an A in theory and an F in real world.
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Dec 15, 2004
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  9. Ron Stewart

    maxpower Guest

    umm that would be me, max!!
     
    maxpower, Dec 15, 2004
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  10. Ron Stewart

    Steve Guest

    One tooth? Cause enough vacuum change AT IDLE to throw the MAP sensor
    that far off?


    Nuh-uh. Several teeth, maybe. One tooth, not a chance.
     
    Steve, Dec 15, 2004
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  11. Ron Stewart

    maxpower Guest

    ok steve
     
    maxpower, Dec 15, 2004
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  12. Ron Stewart

    aarcuda69062 Guest

    Guys, not only will one tooth off screw up the MAP signal, having
    the belt tension too tight will do it also, especially in a cold
    climate.
    The MAP signal is sinusoidal, the SMEC/SBEC actually takes the
    amplitude of the signal into account. That is one reason ChryCo
    vehicles were/are so sensitive to MAP problems.

    The cam timing might be the problem, and it might -not- be the
    problem, but since it takes less than 2 minutes to check and
    verify, it would be reasonable to do so as part of the diagnosis.
     
    aarcuda69062, Dec 16, 2004
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  13. Ron Stewart

    Ron Stewart Guest

    Ok just wanted to Let you guys know the status on this Acclaim.
    I have it in the shop and it is The Head.
    seems the Head Gasket blew and it muist have went a little at a time because
    the compression burnt some of the head away between 2 of the cylniders.
    So they sent the Head out to have a shop Helacoil (I think) Weld) the head
    and machine it then the guys will put it back together.
    Anyway Thanks for all the help.
    I have been monitoring this group some really interesting reading.Thanks
    Ron
     
    Ron Stewart, Dec 22, 2004
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