90 Caravan CV emissions?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by AHoudini, Aug 16, 2003.

  1. AHoudini

    AHoudini Guest

    I have a 90 Caravan Cargo Van. The state says it must pass their emmissions
    testing.
    The switch/on-switch/off test doesn't show any codes and the Miller code
    reader doesn't register anything either. I don't think a 90 is an OBD II,
    is it?
    Wondering if this cargo van does have the usual controls like an Oxygen
    sensor. Do you have and information?
     
    AHoudini, Aug 16, 2003
    #1
  2. If it did not pass (I am assuming) please post what readings were exceeded
    if you
    want any help.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 17, 2003
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  3. The 90 is NOT OBDII. That did not start until 95-96 models. Yes, it
    does have O2 sensors. Give the van a good tune-up and make sure it has
    a clean/new pcv valve. If you have not changed oil recently, give it a
    oil/filter change. Make sure the fuel is fresh and full and drive the
    van a bit before you get to the testing station. Make sure the engine
    is good and warm and MAKE SURE the air conditioner is OFF. Some
    testers will NOT turn it off during the test because if it is hot out,
    the cool air feels good. This can cause more emissions because of the
    strain on the engine. If it is hot out in your area, go in the
    morning( cooler air = better combustion ).
    GOOD LUCK
     
    Richard Benner Jr, Aug 17, 2003
    #3
  4. None of this will help if the EGR valve is bad, and many times bad EGR
    will not set a code.

    This is why I told him to post the readings. Please don't encourage people
    to throw away money on new plugs, etc. unless the emissions readings
    justify it.

    Ted
     
    Ted Mittelstaedt, Aug 19, 2003
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  5. AHoudini

    AHoudini Guest

    Ted,
    As far as posting readings, there aren't any readings. The check engine
    light will not flash codes and neither does the Miller code reader record
    anything. That car has not yet been to the state testing station.
    I don't think SDC communications maintained this van well. The Oxygen
    sensor was frozen badly in the manifold and the dist cap had pits. So, I am
    tuning it up with new plugs, O sensor, wires, cap and rotor and air cleaner.
    I've run into a problem in that I can't find a place where a new PCV valve
    will fit. This one only seems to have a rubber pipe running from the head
    cover to the air cleaner.

    Al

    Ted Mittelstaedt wrote in message ...
     
    AHoudini, Aug 19, 2003
    #5
  6. Then either something is *very* wrong with the engine control computer, or
    neither the flash code procedure nor the code reader is being used
    correctly (Or, for that matter, the "Check Engine" bulb is burned out).
    The correct procedure to obtain flash codes is:

    With the engine off, switch the ignition key on-off-on-off-on, leaving it
    "ON". Do not go to "start", just "on" during this procedure.

    Watch the "Check Engine" or "Power Loss" light. It will turn on, then go
    off, then will begin to flash-out any trouble codes that have been stored.
    For instance, if it flashes:

    flash <pause> flash flash
    <long pause>
    flash flash flash <pause> flash flash flash flash flash
    <long pause>
    flash flash flash flash flash <pause> flash flash flash flash flash

    Then you have a 12 (one flash followed by two) a 35 (three and five) and a
    55 (five and five). 55 means "end of codes" or, if by itself, "No codes
    stored. Check the codes and report what you find.

    Be sure to use a Mopar, NTK, Napa Echlin or Standard BlueStreak O2 sensor,
    and NOT a Bosch, or you'll just cause yourself more problems.
    Which engine have you got? The 2.5 litre 4-cylinder or the 3.0 litre V6?

    DS
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Aug 19, 2003
    #6
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