'89 Caravan paint delaminating

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Tony Sivori, Jun 17, 2004.

  1. Tony Sivori

    Tony Sivori Guest

    The problem is confined to the hood and roof. I plan to paint the area of
    the roof rack an off white. The hood I want to repaint the original color.
    I'll be doing the job with spray cans, so I'm not expecting a factory
    finish. I just want it to look better than it does now, and to prevent
    rust.

    I can't find the paint code info on any tag on the vehicle. There is one
    other number in the driver's door tag who purpose is not obvious: "MDH
    051217 777". Is that a paint code? If not, how do I know what color to buy
    to match the original paint?

    Also, should the factory primer be sanded off to bare metal?
     
    Tony Sivori, Jun 17, 2004
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  2. The paint code is located on the vehicle equipment information plate,
    which is under the hood. Usually it is located atop the radiator support
    panel, but sometimes it is located under the windshield cowl, which must
    be removed in order to view the plate.
    The door tag is the Vehicle Safety Compliance Label, and will tell you
    only which country's safety regulations the van meets, and when and where
    it was built.
    No, that is the Month-Day-Hour code for when the van was built.
    Yes.

    -Stern
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jun 17, 2004
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  3. Tony Sivori

    Art Guest

    Consider taking the car to Maaco. You could prep it yourself. Back when I
    was a lad, I took all the chrome off my 71 Dart Swinger, sanded the worse
    areas and took it to Maaco. Car came out very nice. Unfortuantely, I lived
    in Rochester NY so after a couple of years the rust returned but in a decent
    climate I suspect it would have done quite well. Prep work is the key and
    you can do a bunch yourself.
     
    Art, Jun 17, 2004
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  4. Tony Sivori

    Jack Guest

    --
    I'm disaffected, disappointed, discouraged, disconcerted, distressed,
    disconsolate, disillusioned, disgusted, disenchanted, disgruntled,
    dismayed,...and bloody fed up.... I'm voting Green...again!!!
    If the prime is in decent shape, leave it alone.

    Idler
     
    Jack, Jun 17, 2004
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  5. Tony Sivori

    Tony Sivori Guest

    That's probably where mine is. All I was under the hood was the engine
    info.
    Doh!
     
    Tony Sivori, Jun 17, 2004
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  6. Tony Sivori

    Tony Sivori Guest

    Maybe later but for now I want to do it on the cheap. I got the van at an
    auction, and I want to see how it does before I spend a lot on cosmetics.
     
    Tony Sivori, Jun 17, 2004
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    D. Reid Guest

    Tony...Tony...TONY !!!...With all the hard work your going to go to to paint
    this thing...DONT paint it with spray bomb paint!
    It dont matter how good you are...it will look like crap! They all do.

    Invest a 100 bucks in a gallon of decent syn enamal 30.00 bucks in a flea
    market spary gun, borrow a compressor and shoot yourself a nice paint job
    you'll be proud of...c'mon. You can do it.

    Dave in Florida
     
    D. Reid, Jun 18, 2004
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  8. Tony Sivori

    Art Guest

    I wonder why you are even bothering to paint it. I've seen lots of cars
    with delamination and the primer protects them from rust. At least adequate
    for Raleigh NC. And a buddy in Virginia had a jeep with the same problem
    and just left it alone. Jeep had about 175k miles on it I believe. No
    rust.
     
    Art, Jun 18, 2004
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  9. Tony Sivori

    Tony Sivori Guest

    The roof has a half dozen palm sized patches of rust between the ribs of
    the roof rack. I'd hate to see it rust through and start leaking. It is a
    decent vehicle otherwise. 100,000 miles, but it is the LE model and
    someone took very good care of it. The inside is in very good condition.
     
    Tony Sivori, Jun 18, 2004
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  10. Tony Sivori

    Tony Sivori Guest

    I'm tempted, but I seriously doubt if my first use of a real spray gun
    would yield noticeably better results than a spray can. If I went that
    route, I'd likely take Art's suggestion and do most of the prep work
    myself and then pay a body shop to just spray it.
     
    Tony Sivori, Jun 18, 2004
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  11. Tony Sivori

    Samuel Wear Guest

    The roof has a half dozen palm sized patches of rust between the ribs of
    Definitely worth doing if the van has been taken care of. My wife and
    I bought a '90 Voyager a year and a half ago for $400. The van now
    has 325,000 miles on it. The trans slips occasionally and the top
    end's noisy (they all are), but it starts and runs great. Point is,
    if the van was taken care of as well as you purport, you'll likely get
    a *lot* of miles out of it.

    I also had the paint fall off. The roof was especially bad, and like
    yours, there was some rust. Plastikote makes the little spray cans
    and touch-up cans that work quite well if you take the time to mask
    off all the chrome and glass nicely. It is a little expensive, like
    $8.00 for a small (less than 8 oz, I think) spraycan. In my case, I
    found a can of Rustoleum that was kind of close and much cheaper and
    did the roof in that. Since the roof is out of direct view, it works
    well enough. Then I blended into the Plastikote forward of the roof
    rack. The sides I did using the Plastikote. One word of warning: if
    the paint is peeling off, you'll have to strip it all off and paint
    the hood entirely or else it will simply peel where you didn't
    strip--very frustrating. As far as the codes go, when you go into the
    auto parts store there'll be a book in which you can look up the year,
    make and model and find all the colors available that year. From this
    pool you can easily find your color.
     
    Samuel Wear, Jul 1, 2004
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