85 turbo - coughs on heavy accel load

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by frenchy, Jan 19, 2005.

  1. frenchy

    Nate Nagel Guest

    Dang, that's odd... I knew that part number sounded familiar, and sure
    enough that is as best I can figure the modern equivalent of the stock
    spark plug for a '56 Packard or Stude Golden Hawk. Never seen it used
    anywhere else.

    Nothing really to contribute other than to comment on that, and make a
    mental note to ask for plugs for a '85 2.2 turbo next time I need a set
    for a Packard motor. Saves a lot of explaining, it does.

    nate
     
    Nate Nagel, Jan 20, 2005
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  2. frenchy

    Joe Pfeiffer Guest

    Note in particular that the hoses in the convolute tube that run along
    the back of the valve cover, and the fuel injector wiring harness,
    have a tendency to get cooked.
     
    Joe Pfeiffer, Jan 20, 2005
    #22
  3. frenchy

    Guest Guest

    Sounds to me like simple ignition weakness. Plugs and/or wires
    shot, distributor cap worn out (did that model still have a
    distributor?), coil weak. The spark has the hardest time jumping the
    gap under the highest compression pressures, and that happens at
    low-to-mid RPMs and wide-open throttle. Any weakening of the spark will
    result in hesitation.

    Dan
     
    Guest, Jan 20, 2005
    #23
  4. frenchy

    Steve Guest

    IIRC, RNxxYC is the stock plug for smallblock Mopars, where xx indicates
    heat range (12 & 14 being typical). So there are a few million
    applications for you :) Big block Mopars use the RJxxYC (shorter thread
    reach) series plug.
     
    Steve, Jan 20, 2005
    #24
  5. frenchy

    N8N Guest

    Thanks! That's more helpful than you know; a J12Y is the stock plug
    for a Studebaker R-series (Avanti high compression) motor. Guess what
    else I have laying around :) Makes life easier when you aren't near a
    "good" parts store and the counter guy claims he needs an application,
    he can't just look up a J12Y (and why not?) but of course his
    computerized thingy only goes back to 1969 or whatever.

    Now that I think about it, I don't think I've ever replaced the plugs
    in any MoPars, just cleaned them and kept on rolling. My MoPar-owning
    phase coincided nicely with my "broke as heck" phase :(

    nate
     
    N8N, Jan 20, 2005
    #25
  6. As usual, this source has given half-correct information. Yes, Bosch plugs
    fail early and often. Their regular plugs used to be OK until production
    was moved to China about 18 months ago. Their platinum plugs have never
    been a wise choice in a Chrysler turbo engine.

    But no, you don't have to "USE ONLY CHAMPION". Any well-made plug of the
    correct configuration and heat range will do just fine, and my experience
    has been that Champions' quality control is too inconsistent to rely on. I
    used to favor Autolites, and still use them from time to time, but I've
    come to like NGKs quite a bit -- they're of consistently high quality.
    More horseshit from damnnickname. There is no way a spark plug can alter
    the "timing of the power module".
     
    Daniel J. Stern, Jan 20, 2005
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  7. frenchy

    maxpower Guest

    Daniel you are putting your foot back in your mouth again, Idle was
    controlled by the timing back then, With autolite/bosh and some other
    plugs.I say use Champion because I no that was the only one that I know
    didnt create a problem. The Power Module saw the resistors in them and
    caused the timing to jump all over, causing extreme idle problems
    hesitation problems and more, , I have fixed many a problem at the dealer by
    simply removing the those plugs and installing Champions, If you dont know
    what you are talking about maybe you should put your key board up... I would
    bet you are one of those guys that put everypart on the car untill given up
    and told your cust to take it to the dealer... Is that so? The next time you
    get one of these vehicles, put a timing lite on it and see for youself, but
    then again I bet you dont know how to use one
    It had nothing to do with failing
    And here once again, you have no clue what you are talking about
    Stick with the voltmeter and regulator, you are good at bullshitting your
    customers with that
     
    maxpower, Jan 20, 2005
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  8. frenchy

    frenchy Guest

    Just for information - the wastegate control solenoid that allows
    vacuum to go to the wastegate - exactly when does the computer turn
    that on, or off? Why does it need to control when vacuum can get to it
    or not, I mean, what would happen if the vacuum was just routed to the
    wastegate all the time instead of on and off? thanks
     
    frenchy, Jan 20, 2005
    #28
  9. frenchy

    maxpower Guest

    maxpower, Jan 20, 2005
    #29
  10. frenchy

    maxpower Guest

    Dunno, good question. 4318039AB (and its predecessor 4318039) smells quite
    Now there is something I would have to agree with DS
     
    maxpower, Jan 22, 2005
    #30
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