[QUOTE="Daniel J. Stern"] *shrug* As I said, it'll be debated until the cows come home. There's lots of evidence to support my position.[/QUOTE] Well, that settles it. Now all you have to do is post the "lots of evidence" you claim supports your position and the debate will end. [QUOTE] All you've offered so far to counter it is that you think it's a load of shit. If you intend for your opinion to mean anything, you'll have to do much better than that.[/QUOTE] If you intend for your opinion to mean anything, post the "evidence". John